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5th February 2010, 06:08 PM
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Well their main purpose was to impress ladies at parties! So you want to see a battered one then? How about this, no blue & gilt left at all, in fact service sharpening has removed all decoration along cutting edge ; hilt and scabbard very battered
But ..... on the other hand, its was the sword of Lt James Chatterton of the 12th Light Dragoons, carried at Salamanca, Vittoria, Nive, Nivelle, Quatre Bras and ................WATERLOO! Richard Quote:
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5th February 2010, 07:46 PM
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The question is: which one has more charm? The birdcall couple or Chatterton's warrior?  Don't pay attention Richard ... just kidding  .But anyway, the weigth of history, weighs heavier. Fernando |
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5th February 2010, 09:07 PM
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Without doubt a very handsome trio of dandies but my vote has to go to the warrior. Richard, Many thanks for the photographs, a very interesting group. My Regards, Norman. |
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6th February 2010, 08:42 PM
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Hi Richard,
Would I be correct in assuming that the 'comma' ears were design elements to officers weapons and had no practical purpose? Was this element ever seen in troopers swords? I have an 1821 L.C. Troopers Sabre marked to Osborn independently on the scabbard, blade and hilt but it has what I would call 'normal' ears and I just wondered if there was a variant of the 1796 L.C. or 1821 L.C. Troopers issue with this 'comma' feature? My Regards, Norman. Last edited by Norman McCormick; 6th February 2010 at 10:51 PM. |
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7th February 2010, 02:03 PM
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Hi Norman
"Comma" shaped backpice ears, as far as I am aware, are found only on officer's P1796 swords (later patterns of officer's swords dispensed with ears altogether). Trooper's swords, either 1796 or 1821 patterns as yours, have the plain half round ears. However, all backpiece ears, whether half round, comma or any other shape did have a practical purpose, that being to firmly anchor the grip and backpiece in palce by rivetting to the blade tang thus providing more stability for the hilt components as a whole. Richard Quote:
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7th February 2010, 04:26 PM
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Hi Richard,
Many thanks for the info, I was aware of the purpose of the ear and rivet it was the ear shape that I was not sure about re a practical application but from your answer it appears there was no reason for one shape over another other than aesthetics. Thanks again. My Regards, Norman. Last edited by Norman McCormick; 7th February 2010 at 11:18 PM. |
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8th February 2010, 03:44 AM
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Richard, thank you so much for the response to my questions on the yeomanry, fencible volunteer regiments!! The amazing detail you provide is priceless, and it would take forever and countless volumes to find that kind of information.
I had no idea that Wooley, Deakin and Osborn were actually in a cavalry unit! Now thats dedication, actually using thier own products in drill. The anecdote by Sir Walter Scott is fantastic and gotta save that one!!  Gotta admit I'd be pretty concerned if I went to the doctor and he came in wearin a helmet and flak jacket!All the best, Jim |
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