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Old 11th January 2010, 12:58 AM   #1
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Hi Nandin,

Nice Avatar, I must say, ol'chap.

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Old 11th January 2010, 02:09 PM   #2
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Nice Avatar, I must say, ol'chap.

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Old 11th January 2010, 03:43 PM   #3
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Hi 'Nando,
with the patination looking 19th C and the lack of wear inside the fork, a musket rest seems unlikely. The shape does give it the 'right' look but I believe that the rests were used for the heavier, earlier matchlocks....so would be older than the 19thC. A finial perhaps, flag pole? or maybe worse ...a curtain pole finial ...
With such an imagination....the seller should do listings on eBay

Some pictures of musket rests.....

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Old 11th January 2010, 07:34 PM   #4
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Thank you for the fine pictures David.
You may anyway 'rest' assure that i know what musket 'rests' should (more or less) look like, and how old they (more or less) should be; it's the guy that gave me this thing that does not.
As for what this object should really be, i go more for Colin's sugestion that this is a foot for some kind of stand, strongly the fire place device.
My appreciation for your permanent and kind colaboration on deciphering riddles .
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Old 11th January 2010, 11:27 PM   #5
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Modern (1810 : ) version of a musket rest: Swedish m1810 .





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Thank you for the fine pictures David.
You may anyway 'rest' assure that i know what musket 'rests' should (more or less) look like, and how old they (more or less) should be; it's the guy that gave me this thing that does not.
As for what this object should really be, i go more for Colin's sugestion that this is a foot for some kind of stand, strongly the fire place device.
My appreciation for your permanent and kind colaboration on deciphering riddles .
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Old 11th January 2010, 11:35 PM   #6
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Hi Manolete,

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... Modern (1810 : ) version of a musket rest: Swedish m1810 ...
You mean a 'rifle' rest ?!

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Old 12th January 2010, 12:26 PM   #7
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No Nandinho, no. : )

The Swedish troops this weapon was designed for during the Napoleonic Wars, the Gotlands Nationalbevarung, carried Smoothbores (Muskets/Fusiles).

In Spain and Portugal, during the _late 19th and 20th_ Cs. Long guns were called Rifle, Mosqueton (Musketoon) or Carabina according to their length, yet _all_ were rifled.

But, in the 18th and early 19th Cs, the British called only their rifled muskets "Rifles", and they extended this name to the units so equipped: The Queen's Rifles, The Lowenstein Rifles etc...

OTOH, in Spain (and Portugal I believe), muskets were classified as "fusiles de anima lisa" (smooth-bores), while rifles were "fusiles de anima rayada" (rifled-bores).

The units initially associated to this type of weapon were the "Rifles" within British Forces, Voltigeurs and Tiralleurs among the French, and Cazadores/Cacadores/Jaegers in the Spanish/Portuguese/German Forces. Eventually, Tiradores were specifically addressed as such.

Rifles were far more expensive and difficult to make. For example, in the defeat of the British Invasion attempt to the island of Puerto Rico in 1797, of about 20k of Abercrombie's troops, only 120 were armed with Rifles, the rest carrying Muskets et al.

And yet, I must also admit that the M1810 Huggare was eventually used with Rifles, although the actual use of this weapon was mostly as a camping and entrenchment tool, to make fascines etc...

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You mean a 'rifle' rest ?!

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