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Old 21st December 2009, 12:34 AM   #1
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Don't know anything about this one, but it took my eye. Serrated blade, 15" approx overall length


That too took my eye but I let it slide, did you win it at auction? I got the lots either side of it.

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Old 21st December 2009, 12:39 AM   #2
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That too took my eye but I let it slide, did you win it at auction? I got the lots either side of it.

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Yes mate,
what the hell is it? And what was either side? did I not notice?


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Old 21st December 2009, 12:45 AM   #3
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Yes mate,
what the hell is it? And what was either side? did I not notice?


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To be honest, I have no idea, I think Indian??? I think looking at the reasonalble quality of the piece it is worthy of further discussion.
The other lots were a Sosun Patta "style" knife from North India and a very nice old Chinese sword catcher.
Thanks for the email too.

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Old 23rd December 2009, 05:55 PM   #4
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To be honest, I have no idea, I think Indian??? I think looking at the reasonalble quality of the piece it is worthy of further discussion.
The other lots were a Sosun Patta "style" knife from North India and a very nice old Chinese sword catcher.
Thanks for the email too.

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Hi Mate,

I didn't even see those!! Bloody ebay.uk blocking search results of knives.
Please make sure you post them here when they arrive so we can all be jealous

The Sickle has arrived today, I know it was described as Indian, but I really didn't think it was (so I added it to the list here of non-Indian). If you think it probobly is Indian, I better put it in another thread.

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Old 5th November 2010, 06:22 PM   #5
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Names of tools/weapons in other languages is a major problem... I collect billhooks, variously know in the UK as pruning hooks, spar hooks, block hooks, hedging bills, hand bills, bills and a whole load of other regional names...

In France they are called serpes or serpettes (small serpe) but other names also exist e.g. poudo, gouet, goyard, vousge...

Add a long handle and the english bill becomes a staff hook or slasher and a french serpe a croissant (no, not the sort you eat)....

Then there are sickles, also called hooks in the UK, and known as faucilles in France, but the faucillon and faucille à bois are curved billhooks for cutting wood...

Look up the word billhook in Spanish, and you get podadora, but search Google for podadora and you get secateurs and chainsaws... the billhook can be found, but as a podòn or a podal (or by yet another dialect name...)

Mutiple names in one country for the same tool make it difficult to be sure exactly what you have...

Even the experts get it wrong - the Cambridge Museum (UK) has a Spanish sickle shaped billhook catalogued as an 'ocino' - look this word up and you draw a blank... Search instead for 'hocino' and you will find a small 'hoz' or sickle - the 'h' in hocino is silent - if museums have this level of confusion, what hope is there for the amateur collector....

Add dialect to regional accent, and puta, pota, poda, puda can all sound the same - all are dialect variations on poudo in France and Spain...

Good luck on getting the name right for a weapon or tool in your collection....

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Old 5th November 2010, 11:35 PM   #6
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Thai/Cambodian? Rice cutter/sickle. Horn handle.

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Old 6th November 2010, 04:00 PM   #7
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Hi Nathaniel,
These two rice cutting tools are from Cambodia.(one piece only, but two exposures)
Your photo of these 15 or 16 tools from Cambodia do not clearly show the hook and the handle of these tools.
They look at least similar to my photo.
May be Billman can suggest the most appropriate name in English. I would propose : sickle ?

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