expencive moro kris

Battara · 14th December 2009, 04:58 PM

I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.

mross · 14th December 2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.

Jose, that may be what bothered me about it. I kept looking at this and my little voice said something is not right. So I did not enter the fray. I agree the pictures where not the best. From my own perspective, if the pictures are not good there is usually a reason for it. Most sellers on ebay know what they have. Reference my thread awhile back about a potential twist core that the seller did not supply close ups when asked. I don't think that one was a twist core and I don't think this one is either.

Bill · 14th December 2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

From my own perspective, if the pictures are not good there is usually a reason for it.

Besides a clean, patina free "ivory" pommel next to a aged pommel band & the rattan; the engraved lines appear like they were done with a electric engraving tool. The waves appear to be stock removal, original or not, hard to say but the with the rest of the oddities, I'd be concerned. The darkness of it, says a heavy acid etch, giving it some appearance of age. My guess is it was once a straight kris with a softer core & would be surprised to see someone post it with a twisted core. Of course, just my opinion from the present pictures.

Gavin Nugent · 14th December 2009, 11:48 PM

I would say there is no twist core there but certainly a difference in steel.
Like some I have and had, this is most likely an old collection piece that is covered in a protective film, the centre will be an open pattern laminated steel and the outer edges a different finely laminated and very sharp steel.
When cleaned they do present a very attractive blade. The fine lines I can not comment on but fine quality lines are not unheard of.

Gav

kino · 14th December 2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.

Same thought here.
Also the rattan wrap concerned me. I was thinking that it should have some kind of metal bands or at least better rattan weaving.

vampire · 14th December 2009, 08:53 PM

hai battra
i am new on this field of moro kris
but i had the same feeling
i did look at the sale and did not bid
rick did explane it to me and i think he knows
more on the field than i
but i did wonder on the origin of this kris
but oke next year next time we know more
great day

14th December 2009, 11:48 PM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Interesting I would say there is no twist core there but certainly a difference in steel. Like some I have and had, this is most likely an old collection piece that is covered in a protective film, the centre will be an open pattern laminated steel and the outer edges a different finely laminated and very sharp steel. When cleaned they do present a very attractive blade. The fine lines I can not comment on but fine quality lines are not unheard of. Gav

14th December 2009, 08:53 PM	#6
vampire Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: amsterdam holland Posts: 28	i wonder hai battra i am new on this field of moro kris but i had the same feeling i did look at the sale and did not bid rick did explane it to me and i think he knows more on the field than i but i did wonder on the origin of this kris but oke next year next time we know more great day

14th December 2009, 04:58 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I wonder if it was originally a junggayan that was modified later (due to breakage). Carving could also be original, but just a little odd for the size of pommel.