barrels with tube fastening in 1470-80

Matchlock · 10th December 2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiridonov

Hi, Michael! So I see, what you have no sizes of this barrel?

p/s
Thanks for great fotos

Oh yes, I have,

and I will post them together with the the measurements of the other Pilsen pieces, so please be patient!

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 12th April 2010, 08:33 PM

Michael, can You make canning without transate? Only scanning. If health certainly allows. If it is heavy for you because of a sick back then do not do it

Matchlock · 13th April 2010, 03:59 PM

Hi Alexander,

These are the measurements of the group of seven tiller guns marked 5 by you according to Sixl, ZHWK, 1900-02, p. 264 ff.

Length of barrel in cm; weight in kg; caliber in mm; top to bottom:

1. 94.6; 13.7; 21;

2. 84.6; 12.3; 21;

3. 91.8; 12.8; 21;

4. 88; 14.9; 24;

5. 99.8; 15.4; 26;

6. 90; 11.9; 22;

7. 96; 13.1; 26.

Simple scanning was not possible vor various reasons, moreover the text is in German and there are misprints in Sixl's table.

Please note that Sixl did not give the length of the stocks as he was not sure about their being the original.

I do hope this will help you along.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 13th April 2010, 04:55 PM

Thanks biggest! These is a very valuable data. Does the length specified together with the plug (tube) or not? else i whant to ask: Have this barrel chamber or not?

Else as this handgonne is in your collection I wish to ask you. May i make a replica of this?

Spiridonov · 13th April 2010, 05:14 PM

Michel do you have data fof full table?

Matchlock · 13th April 2010, 05:31 PM

Sixl's measurements of the barrel lengths do include the tubular sockets. What you call a chamber, i.e. the breech originally receiving the powder and ball, is covered in any case.

My scanner is out of order at the moment but as soon as it is back at work I will publish a scan of all those data.
Dont' expect too much of them though, they are extremely bewildering, even to an expert, and I am afraid I might be of very little help to you ...

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 13th April 2010, 06:18 PM

Data which you have given correspond to numbers at the left or to an arrangement of burrels from top to a bottom? There can be misunderstanding of that when I mounted this photo I have broken an arrangement of burrels and numbering. Sorry for my stupid qestions

Spiridonov · 13th April 2010, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

What you call a chamber, i.e. the breech originally receiving the powder and ball, is covered in any case.

I had mean a narrowing inside of barrel from your collection. Had it narrowing?

13th April 2010, 03:59 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The measurements of Seven Pilsen Tiller Guns Hi Alexander, These are the measurements of the group of seven tiller guns marked 5 by you according to Sixl, ZHWK, 1900-02, p. 264 ff. Length of barrel in cm; weight in kg; caliber in mm; top to bottom: 1. 94.6; 13.7; 21; 2. 84.6; 12.3; 21; 3. 91.8; 12.8; 21; 4. 88; 14.9; 24; 5. 99.8; 15.4; 26; 6. 90; 11.9; 22; 7. 96; 13.1; 26. Simple scanning was not possible vor various reasons, moreover the text is in German and there are misprints in Sixl's table. Please note that Sixl did not give the length of the stocks as he was not sure about their being the original. I do hope this will help you along. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 13th April 2010 at 04:29 PM.

13th April 2010, 04:55 PM	#4
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Thanks biggest! These is a very valuable data. Does the length specified together with the plug (tube) or not? else i whant to ask: Have this barrel chamber or not? Else as this handgonne is in your collection I wish to ask you. May i make a replica of this? Last edited by Spiridonov; 13th April 2010 at 05:06 PM.

12th April 2010, 08:33 PM	#2
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michael, can You make canning without transate? Only scanning. If health certainly allows. If it is heavy for you because of a sick back then do not do it

13th April 2010, 05:14 PM	#5
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michel do you have data fof full table?

13th April 2010, 05:31 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Sixl's measurements of the barrel lengths do include the tubular sockets. What you call a chamber, i.e. the breech originally receiving the powder and ball, is covered in any case. My scanner is out of order at the moment but as soon as it is back at work I will publish a scan of all those data. Dont' expect too much of them though, they are extremely bewildering, even to an expert, and I am afraid I might be of very little help to you ... Best, Michael

13th April 2010, 06:18 PM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Data which you have given correspond to numbers at the left or to an arrangement of burrels from top to a bottom? There can be misunderstanding of that when I mounted this photo I have broken an arrangement of burrels and numbering. Sorry for my stupid qestions