barrels with tube fastening in 1470-80

Spiridonov · 8th December 2009, 08:43 AM

Thank you! But i had mean this barrel (look at attachment) :-) but i interesting in other barrels from Sixl's article too :-) Especially i interesting in quality foto of stock of this arquebuse.

Matchlock · 9th December 2009, 06:22 PM

Hi Alexander,

If you allow some time I will post all 18 haquebuts prerserved in the Západocéske Musezeum Pilsen, together with the photos and all their relevant measurements and data. Please keep in mind that all I have is these more than 100 year old b&w photos taken by Sixl. 17 of these 18 haquebuts seemingly retain their original stocks and one of them even a primitve snap tinderlock. When I was at the Pilsen Muzeum in 2000 the curator was unfortunately not able to find that one. I can't really blame him because you should see the astounding masses of more than 250 firearms before ca. 1530, all displayed on trestles and with very little space in between. Sadly enough, many of them are displayed with the touch hole (and in this case the lock!) facing the walls - and they are fixed in their position with iron bands!

As Sixl's article is in German I am not quite sure how to do it. In fact I know too little about computers to be able and scan Sixl's tabulated list and translate the German text into English. I have to as ask around a bit how to get the translations into the table elements. But you will live to see it, no doubt.

Best,
Michael

fernando · 9th December 2009, 11:19 PM

Mama mia

What a display!
Fernando

Spiridonov · 10th December 2009, 06:54 AM

Hi, Michael! So I see, what you have no sizes of this barrel?

p/s
Thanks for great fotos

Matchlock · 10th December 2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiridonov

Hi, Michael! So I see, what you have no sizes of this barrel?

p/s
Thanks for great fotos

Oh yes, I have,

and I will post them together with the the measurements of the other Pilsen pieces, so please be patient!

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 12th April 2010, 08:33 PM

Michael, can You make canning without transate? Only scanning. If health certainly allows. If it is heavy for you because of a sick back then do not do it

Matchlock · 13th April 2010, 03:59 PM

Hi Alexander,

These are the measurements of the group of seven tiller guns marked 5 by you according to Sixl, ZHWK, 1900-02, p. 264 ff.

Length of barrel in cm; weight in kg; caliber in mm; top to bottom:

1. 94.6; 13.7; 21;

2. 84.6; 12.3; 21;

3. 91.8; 12.8; 21;

4. 88; 14.9; 24;

5. 99.8; 15.4; 26;

6. 90; 11.9; 22;

7. 96; 13.1; 26.

Simple scanning was not possible vor various reasons, moreover the text is in German and there are misprints in Sixl's table.

Please note that Sixl did not give the length of the stocks as he was not sure about their being the original.

I do hope this will help you along.

Best,
Michael

8th December 2009, 08:43 AM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Thank you! But i had mean this barrel (look at attachment) :-) but i interesting in other barrels from Sixl's article too :-) Especially i interesting in quality foto of stock of this arquebuse. Attached Images Last edited by Spiridonov; 8th December 2009 at 09:02 AM.

9th December 2009, 06:22 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The Pilsen haquebuts recorded by Sixl in ZWK 1900-02 Hi Alexander, If you allow some time I will post all 18 haquebuts prerserved in the Západocéske Musezeum Pilsen, together with the photos and all their relevant measurements and data. Please keep in mind that all I have is these more than 100 year old b&w photos taken by Sixl. 17 of these 18 haquebuts seemingly retain their original stocks and one of them even a primitve snap tinderlock. When I was at the Pilsen Muzeum in 2000 the curator was unfortunately not able to find that one. I can't really blame him because you should see the astounding masses of more than 250 firearms before ca. 1530, all displayed on trestles and with very little space in between. Sadly enough, many of them are displayed with the touch hole (and in this case the lock!) facing the walls - and they are fixed in their position with iron bands! As Sixl's article is in German I am not quite sure how to do it. In fact I know too little about computers to be able and scan Sixl's tabulated list and translate the German text into English. I have to as ask around a bit how to get the translations into the table elements. But you will live to see it, no doubt. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 9th December 2009 at 06:41 PM.

13th April 2010, 03:59 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The measurements of Seven Pilsen Tiller Guns Hi Alexander, These are the measurements of the group of seven tiller guns marked 5 by you according to Sixl, ZHWK, 1900-02, p. 264 ff. Length of barrel in cm; weight in kg; caliber in mm; top to bottom: 1. 94.6; 13.7; 21; 2. 84.6; 12.3; 21; 3. 91.8; 12.8; 21; 4. 88; 14.9; 24; 5. 99.8; 15.4; 26; 6. 90; 11.9; 22; 7. 96; 13.1; 26. Simple scanning was not possible vor various reasons, moreover the text is in German and there are misprints in Sixl's table. Please note that Sixl did not give the length of the stocks as he was not sure about their being the original. I do hope this will help you along. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 13th April 2010 at 04:29 PM.

9th December 2009, 11:19 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Mama mia What a display! Fernando

10th December 2009, 06:54 AM	#4
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Hi, Michael! So I see, what you have no sizes of this barrel? p/s Thanks for great fotos

12th April 2010, 08:33 PM	#6
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michael, can You make canning without transate? Only scanning. If health certainly allows. If it is heavy for you because of a sick back then do not do it