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Old 30th November 2009, 02:12 PM   #1
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Welcome Sirek. I am not sure that the comments so far have been particularly helpful to you. To be a little more direct, what you have on your keris i would not call pamor in that it is a decorative element that has been added after forging, perhaps to somewhat mimic the effect Udan Mas (golden rain) pamor. This is more akin to kinatah than pamor, the process of adding gold design elements to decorate a blade after forging, but this is not done with gold nor the considerable amount of artistry of good kinatah. As has been pointed out they are trying out some possible directions on contemporary keris from Madura these days.
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Old 30th November 2009, 06:56 PM   #2
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Thanks for the comment,

the photo from Rasjid shows similar circles, and it seems that everything is possible, and I see it now as a form of artistic design.
I know that it is not everyone type of keris. but it works for me.
Perhaps I can always use it to hypnotize someone with it

One of the reasons I bought him was that the carving was from a good quality and it cames whith a nice hardwood keris board that goes with it.
i believe that the keris of Madura is often a real work of art, but sometimes with olmost exaggerated decorations including the woodcarving.
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Old 30th November 2009, 08:04 PM   #3
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That is indeed a nice keris board Sirek and the carving of hilt and sheath appears nice.
I think the idea that everything is possible these days in the keris world might have some truth to it, but for many the idea that anything goes is not always so valid. In other worlds many collectors are still seeking keris that maintain a certain amount of integrity and adhere to the parameters of what a "real" keris is and are seeking keris that fall into one of the established "pakems" even if they are newly made contemporary blades. New invention in the keris world is not particularly well received by the collectoring community, sometimes, IMO, for good reason.
What i think the makers of your keris were doing was to provide a post-forging short-cut to the effect of pamor Udan Mas (golden rain). I have attached an image of what this might look like when actually done as a pamor pattern. This is not nearly the best example of this pamor's execution, just the most representational example i could find on the web at short notice to show you what this design looks like as a pamor pattern.
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Old 30th November 2009, 09:18 PM   #4
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David I understand what you want to say,

In my collection I have a keris with a similar pattern ( but 'm not sure of the name of the pamor).
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Old 30th November 2009, 09:42 PM   #5
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Do you have any keris books, Sirek ?
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Old 30th November 2009, 09:49 PM   #6
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This is pamor bonang rinenteng.
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Old 1st December 2009, 07:05 AM   #7
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or gamelan pamor too
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