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A. G. Maisey · 17th November 2009, 08:32 PM

It looks like this remarkable keris has caught our attention.

Has anybody ever seen pamor like this, made with material of this kind, in a Peninsula Keris? Sumatra Keris? Bugis Keris from anywhere?

Perhaps we may have seen similar pamor work in a Lombok Keris. Maybe even in a Bali Keris.

We have almost certainly seen similar pamor work in a Jawa Keris.

And in a current era Madura keris.

Look at the form of the gandik and the way that the ron dha have been cut. Look at the proportionate length of the last luk.

Look at the exceptionally crude workmanship in the sogokan.

Look at the pattern of erosion on the surface of the blade.

Now have a look at the pendongkok. This pendongkok was made in East Jawa.

Look at the pendok. Who has seen a buntut of exactly this form on a keris that was definitely known to come from the Peninsula, Sumatra, or the Eastern Islands? I have not, but I have seen this sort of work on very inferior pendok made in East Jawa.

I have not the slightest doubt that Mamat acquired this keris from a villager of Bugis descent, living in West Sumbawa.

My question would be:- from where did our Bugis villager acquire this keris?

In my book, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck -----

Moshah · 18th November 2009, 07:51 AM

The blade is drenched with oil.

Perhaps if Mr mamat lombok could wipe it dry and post the blade's texture close up, we can get a closer, clearer look at it.

David · 18th November 2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

The blade is drenched with oil.
Perhaps if Mr mamat lombok could wipe it dry and post the blade's texture close up, we can get a closer, clearer look at it.

I agree that there is way too much oil on this blade, but i am not so sure that the assessments would change much if you wiped it dry and shot again.

17th November 2009, 08:32 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	It looks like this remarkable keris has caught our attention. Has anybody ever seen pamor like this, made with material of this kind, in a Peninsula Keris? Sumatra Keris? Bugis Keris from anywhere? Perhaps we may have seen similar pamor work in a Lombok Keris. Maybe even in a Bali Keris. We have almost certainly seen similar pamor work in a Jawa Keris. And in a current era Madura keris. Look at the form of the gandik and the way that the ron dha have been cut. Look at the proportionate length of the last luk. Look at the exceptionally crude workmanship in the sogokan. Look at the pattern of erosion on the surface of the blade. Now have a look at the pendongkok. This pendongkok was made in East Jawa. Look at the pendok. Who has seen a buntut of exactly this form on a keris that was definitely known to come from the Peninsula, Sumatra, or the Eastern Islands? I have not, but I have seen this sort of work on very inferior pendok made in East Jawa. I have not the slightest doubt that Mamat acquired this keris from a villager of Bugis descent, living in West Sumbawa. My question would be:- from where did our Bugis villager acquire this keris? In my book, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck -----

18th November 2009, 07:51 AM	#2
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	The blade is drenched with oil. Perhaps if Mr mamat lombok could wipe it dry and post the blade's texture close up, we can get a closer, clearer look at it.