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Old 14th November 2009, 04:17 PM   #1
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This is a nice keris, but i don't think i would classify this blade as Bugis. What about it makes it Bugis for you?
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Old 14th November 2009, 04:56 PM   #2
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I suppose this spelling goes back to the post: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=10218&page=3

Congratulations, a really nice blade, Mamat. Regarding the fittings: is the sampir new or just used and recently "married" to this blade? What would you say about the age of selut?

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Old 14th November 2009, 05:20 PM   #3
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Equal from where this blade, very nice pamor!
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Old 15th November 2009, 08:50 AM   #4
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dear all ,
thanks for the comments.

hi david , i said the blade is bugis cause i obtain directly from the original owner,
he is a villager in kampung bugis (west sumbawa).

To Gustav ,sampir and ganjar are new ,also the pendhok.
the original part of it only blade and hilt.
oh ya selut is new made also
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Old 15th November 2009, 09:33 AM   #5
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Interesting.

Very.
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Old 16th November 2009, 09:11 AM   #6
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Was it Lar Gangsir agal, or could it be ganggeng kanyut too?
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Old 16th November 2009, 02:44 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Mamat Lombok
i said the blade is bugis cause i obtain directly from the original owner, he is a villager in kampung bugis (west sumbawa).
You say original owner. Then this keris isn't so old after all?
Even so this is clearly not a Bugis style blade.
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Old 16th November 2009, 04:00 PM   #8
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It's a B-KLO (Bugis Keris Like Object)!
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Old 16th November 2009, 05:57 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by David
You say original owner. Then this keris isn't so old after all?
Even so this is clearly not a Bugis style blade.
Hi Dave..
frankly i am not so sure about how old the keris is..but some people say that it come from midle of 18th century (I AM NOT SURE about it).
thanks.
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Old 16th November 2009, 07:55 PM   #10
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Hi Dave..
frankly i am not so sure about how old the keris is..but some people say that it come from midle of 18th century (I AM NOT SURE about it).
thanks.
That was the point of my post. If you got it from the original owner then it certainly isn't from the mid 18th or even 19th century or this guy must have been really, really old. If it is actually old then the guy you got it from wasn't the original owner and it's origins don't necessarily have to be in West Sumbawa where it was found. As we all know, blades can travel over time. Either way i still maintain that this is not the style of blade that we see from the Bugis people, regardless of how it is dressed. It has far too many Javanese elements to it though i am not so sure it is from Java. I have absolutely no idea why i think it might be Palembang, but i will put that out there.
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