Filipino Slam Fire Rifle

[kino]

Originally Posted by KuKulzA28

How exactly does the slam-fire mechanism work?

...if safe enough, I might attempt a homemade version...

How it works:

Place one hand on the foregrip, pull slightly forward (photo #2), this gives the user access to the breech (photo #3), load ordinance, aim , pull the front end of the rifle back with some force, so the firing pin makes hard
contact with the primer....oops misfire, try again.

If you're ever in Seattle, give me a call and you can test fire mine, but first you must sign a waiver and leave a deposit.

What's the caliber of your piece, approximately?

I have no idea, I'll have to get some spent brass casings (30-40 Krag, 30-06, .308. 7.7 Jap....410 shot shell possibly), and try it out.
This rifle doesn't have the appearance of being made in haste, it has a lot of detail work.

[Dimasalang]

Dam, what a cool toy to have in your collection.
Supposedly some of the Filipinos did not believe in the "rear sight". Some accounts mention the Filipinos taking off the rear sight, believing they only needed the front. Gen MacArthur was asked about this, and he believed many of the Filipinos were typically ignorant farmers who were handed rifles with no training and had no clue how they worked.
This is not the norm though...there are plenty of pics of Filipinos touting rifles with rear sights.

[Spunjer]

w w!!! nice paltik, kino! i wonder how many of these are still in existence...

[Battara]

thanks for sharing - not seen these before and good to see the okir on the bottom.

[nacho]

Ilonggos (Panay) in the Philippines have been making these improvised shotguns up to 1972, when martial law was declared and prohibited the possession of unlicensed firearms.

I remember they called it "pugakang". The center of production was centered around Pototan town, northeast of Iloilo.

Spunjer might remember this.

[trenchwarfare]

Believe it or not. During WWII, a version of this weapon was made by Harrington and Richardson, in the US. They were air dropped to guerilla units, fighting the Japanese. The stocks, are even branded, "Guerilla Gun".

[trenchwarfare]

Originally Posted by trenchwarfare

Believe it or not. During WWII, a version of this weapon was made by Harrington and Richardson, in the US. They were air dropped to guerilla units, fighting the Japanese. The stocks, are even branded, "Guerilla Gun".

I was going through some old posts, and came across this. I must correct myself.
H&R, did NOT make the "Guerilla Gun", for use in WWII. They were made post war, by Richardson Industries. The company was started by Iliff D. Richardson. He has the distinction of being one of the oly US personnel, to hold rank in the USN, and US Army. Being both Ensign, and Captain. He stayed behind in the Filippines, to organize a resistance movement, and also over saw the mfg. of Paliuntod guns. These were of better quality than the local examples. After the war, he tried to make them commercially, but the venture was an utter failure. Richardson "Guerilla Guns" are scarce, and fairly expensive. Sorry for the misinformation.

[trenchwarfare]

Originally Posted by trenchwarfare

Believe it or not. During WWII, a version of this weapon was made by Harrington and Richardson, in the US. They were air dropped to guerilla units, fighting the Japanese. The stocks, are even branded, "Guerilla Gun".

I was going through some old posts, and came across this. I must correct myself.
H&R, did NOT make the "Guerilla Gun", for use in WWII. They were made post war, by Richardson Industries. The company was started by Iliff D. Richardson. He has the distinction of being one of the oly US personnel, to hold rank in the USN, and US Army. Being both Ensign, and Captain. He stayed behind in the Filippines, to organize a resistance movement, and also over saw the mfg. of Paliuntod guns. These were of better quality than the local examples. After the war, he tried to make them commercially, but the venture was an utter failure. Richardson "Guerilla Guns" are scarce, and fairly expensive. Sorry for the misinformation.

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by nacho

Ilonggos (Panay) in the Philippines have been making these improvised shotguns up to 1972, when martial law was declared and prohibited the possession of unlicensed firearms.

I remember they called it "pugakang". The center of production was centered around Pototan town, northeast of Iloilo.

Spunjer might remember this.

nacho,
the pugakang i remember were the ones used by "Familia-Familias" (Frats in manila, gangbangers here in the states)....
didn't know Pototan was the center of production. lol, that wasn't too far from Tabuk Suba, where we used to lived...

[kino]

Danao was just a several minutes away from where I used to live.
Danao is suppose to be the paltik capital of the PI

Photo of a paltik below.

Believe it or not. During WWII, a version of this weapon was made by Harrington and Richardson, in the US. They were air dropped to guerilla units, fighting the Japanese. The stocks, are even branded, "Guerilla Gun".

I have heard of the Liberator Pistols being dropped behind enemy lines, I have seen a few of the pistols for sale. Now I have to search for the Guerilla Gun.