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Old 1st November 2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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You must have been a good boy.Santa is apparently being very nice to you this year. And so early. Bt this can only mean that yo will only receive a bag of coal on Christmas Day.
As for the Sumatran and the gold, i will say that i also have a Sumatran keris with gold and i was equally worried about washing and staining it. I held my breath and did it anyway and was quite pleased with my results. I can't guarantee your results, but it can be done. Mine is also missing a little bit of the kinatah, but i'm not sure there is anyone who cold restore it for me or if it wold be the best thing to do so.
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You must have been a good boy.Santa is apparently being very nice to you this year. And so early. Bt this can only mean that yo will only receive a bag of coal on Christmas Day.
As for the Sumatran and the gold, i will say that i also have a Sumatran keris with gold and i was equally worried about washing and staining it. I held my breath and did it anyway and was quite pleased with my results. I can't guarantee your results, but it can be done. Mine is also missing a little bit of the kinatah, but i'm not sure there is anyone who cold restore it for me or if it wold be the best thing to do so.
I try to be a good boy every day again! Here in this part of Germany is coal a slang word for money, so I will be happy to get a bag like this!!
The kinatah on Sumatran blades is complete different then on Javanese or Balinese blades. I have one blade similar to this one and all gold is gone. First I will try to remove the rust without a new staining, when the result isn't good the blade get a new warangan.
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Old 1st November 2009, 11:25 PM   #3
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About the Ganesha hilt: Is it ivory? It is to seen some porosity under his trunk. From the colour and the cracks it look like ivory.
And what do you think from where this hilt? I have never seen a hilt like this.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 12:24 AM   #4
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About the Ganesha hilt: Is it ivory? It is to seen some porosity under his trunk. From the colour and the cracks it look like ivory.
And what do you think from where this hilt? I have never seen a hilt like this.
Hard to tell from the photo you provided. It might be horn (antler). I have something similar that i believe could be of Maduran origin.
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Hard to tell from the photo you provided. It might be horn (antler). I have something similar that i believe could be of Maduran origin.
Hello David,

my guess is also deer horn since on the head is an inserted piece of the same material. I have had a phone with a collector friend and he also think that it is antler. About the origin: the handle shows in my eyes clearly Ganesha and my friend guess by this that the origin is Bali because the religious background. On the other hand is the design more like Cirebon or Madura. Would you be so kind to show your handle?

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About the origin: the handle shows in my eyes clearly Ganesha and my friend guess by this that the origin is Bali because the religious background. On the other hand is the design more like Cirebon or Madura. Would you be so kind to show your handle?
Detlef, this one isn't mine, but mine is a dead ringer for it (though i think mine is carved a bit better than this). I will also photograph mine in the next few days and post it.
This one has been IDed as coming from Madura so i have assumed that mine is also and since it bares quite a lot of stylistic elements in common with yours i would hazard that yours is also of the same origin. There have been enclaves of Hindus living in Madura and figurative hilts are very common there despite the Islamic majority.
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Thank you David. There are indeed some identic elements by this hilt and it shows also Ganesha (?).
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