Twist core budiak

Rick · 31st October 2009, 11:18 PM

Often this was dealt with by a heavy brass ferrule of some length reinforced with heavier rings strategically placed .

A. G. Maisey · 1st November 2009, 12:12 PM

Yeah, I can see how a rigid ferrule like that could add a lot of strength.

In the old Javanese fighting spears there was often no ferrule at all, the place of the ferrule was taken by a cord binding, so naturally you needed a nice long tang.

But still, this is pretty solid sort of blade. Stick it on the end of a six foot shaft and I don't reckon you have something that could be moved around quickly by anybody except a very, very strong man.

And a whacking great heavy blade in a spear doesn't really do the job any better than a small light blade.

I think I might be missing something here, because to my mind, something like this has no purpose other than some sort of display.

Spunjer · 1st November 2009, 01:47 PM

it's not as bulky or heavy as you might think. on the average, i've seen kampilans and battle krises heavier that these budiaks. with shaft exceeding 7+ feet, it's actually well balance. this, coupled with a shield, makes a formidable weapon.

Battara · 1st November 2009, 05:01 PM

Spunger is right and there are old pictures of Moros doing war dances with these spears.

A. G. Maisey · 1st November 2009, 08:35 PM

Yeah, I guess you'd have to handle it to really understand. I'm just comparing the apparent mass with what I know, and this spear is certainly different in many ways from what I know to be effective weapon design from a few different places.

Battara · 2nd November 2009, 04:06 AM

My twistcore spear is complete, 8 feet long, and very light.

31st October 2009, 11:18 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Often this was dealt with by a heavy brass ferrule of some length reinforced with heavier rings strategically placed . Attached Images Last edited by Rick; 31st October 2009 at 11:29 PM.

1st November 2009, 12:12 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Yeah, I can see how a rigid ferrule like that could add a lot of strength. In the old Javanese fighting spears there was often no ferrule at all, the place of the ferrule was taken by a cord binding, so naturally you needed a nice long tang. But still, this is pretty solid sort of blade. Stick it on the end of a six foot shaft and I don't reckon you have something that could be moved around quickly by anybody except a very, very strong man. And a whacking great heavy blade in a spear doesn't really do the job any better than a small light blade. I think I might be missing something here, because to my mind, something like this has no purpose other than some sort of display.

1st November 2009, 01:47 PM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	it's not as bulky or heavy as you might think. on the average, i've seen kampilans and battle krises heavier that these budiaks. with shaft exceeding 7+ feet, it's actually well balance. this, coupled with a shield, makes a formidable weapon.

1st November 2009, 05:01 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Spunger is right and there are old pictures of Moros doing war dances with these spears.

1st November 2009, 08:35 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Yeah, I guess you'd have to handle it to really understand. I'm just comparing the apparent mass with what I know, and this spear is certainly different in many ways from what I know to be effective weapon design from a few different places.

2nd November 2009, 04:06 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	My twistcore spear is complete, 8 feet long, and very light.