little intro

Sajen · 29th October 2009, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

I just wonder whether the hilt and warangka are made originally for this blade.

Is there any way to identify this?

This is very difficult, special by the hilt. When a warangka is made for a blade it's your feeling how the blade fit's inside and the patination inside the sheat is also a sign if a sarung is original to a blade.

Moshah · 30th October 2009, 04:52 PM

Wow Sajen, if that's the case I guess I will never know it for sure!

Anyway, it is not that important, isn't it? I heard the blade can change sheath and hilt whenever the owner's have the dough...

Sajen · 30th October 2009, 05:48 PM

Indeed, you never will know it for sure, it is a guess from your feeling. But you can see if a sheat is worked for a keris or not. You are right, sometimes a keris have had more than one dress, one for every day use and one for special use, maybe wedding. And sometimes a expensive hilt was sold because the owner need money and the keris get a more simple hilt. I think that this is also the reason why there so much hilts without a blade.

(good for collecting)

Detlef

Moshah · 30th October 2009, 06:33 PM

Very well put, detlef!

it also make this hobby rather complicated, right?

Actually it is best that we can stick to original combo (of blade and its dress) but as you said, that would be inevitably impossible today...

30th October 2009, 04:52 PM	#2
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Wow Sajen, if that's the case I guess I will never know it for sure! Anyway, it is not that important, isn't it? I heard the blade can change sheath and hilt whenever the owner's have the dough...

30th October 2009, 05:48 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Indeed, you never will know it for sure, it is a guess from your feeling. But you can see if a sheat is worked for a keris or not. You are right, sometimes a keris have had more than one dress, one for every day use and one for special use, maybe wedding. And sometimes a expensive hilt was sold because the owner need money and the keris get a more simple hilt. I think that this is also the reason why there so much hilts without a blade. (good for collecting) Detlef

30th October 2009, 06:33 PM	#4
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Very well put, detlef! it also make this hobby rather complicated, right? Actually it is best that we can stick to original combo (of blade and its dress) but as you said, that would be inevitably impossible today...