A Sumbawa keris kalawija

sipakatuo · 4th October 2009, 03:29 AM

Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Keris Bugis Bima

Dear All

Dynasty of Bima and Dynasty of Gowa have special relationships that last for almost 200 years. It all started in 1616 when Sultan of Bima name Sultan Abdul Khair went to Gowa and learnt Islam. He then married to a princes of Gowa, daughter of Sultan Maliku Said. Sultan Abdul Khair helped Gowa against VOC. He also very close to his Brother in Law name Sultan Hasanudin (I Malombasi Daeng Matawang) Even in the treaty of Bongaya it also stated about Bima as alliance of Gowa. Therefore, it is not surprising to me to see Keris Bugis Makassar also exist in Bima and Sumbawa. It is also mentioned in your (Gustav) link that there were Pande Besi (Smiths) lived in Penana Village in Bima who produced Keris and other traditional weapons. Not only Malacca, Palembang, Batavia, Cirebon, Demak, Tuban, and Makassar who plays important ports. Sumbawa and Bima also considered as important ports between 16 to 18 century. It is also mentioned that Swords from Sumbawa was traded in Palembang. This is also not surprising to me when I see Sword from Palembang has the same model in Bima/Sumbawa. Sultan of Sumbawa and Sultan/Arung from Bugis like to share gifts in form of Tappi (Keris), Alameng (Sword), or Bessi (Spear). As Alan mentioned earlier that in Kupang/Flores also exist Keris Smith known to be Keris Kupang with typical Besi Masir. It is the same like Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Bima most have identical iron. I found Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Bima have more variety in shapes, the pamor also nicely constructed compare to Keris Bugis Sulawesi. Since Sulawesi has its own iron mining deposited in Luwu, the local smiths like to use iron from Luwu to make weapons. Besi Luwu is rich in nickel therefore keris originated from Sulawesi is slightly different in material compare to keris from Sumbawa and or Bima although sometimes the shape is identical like Tappi Sapukala (Keris Sepokal). I believe as collectors we are aware that Besi Luwu is long traded in Nusantara and also used as bahan pamor in other regions. Therefore, you can see pamor keris from other regions made from besi Luwu. The Bugis influence is strong in Sumbawa, Bima, Sumatra, Kalimantan, and Semenanjung. It shows in the model of Wanua (Warangka) where they adopt boat shape typical form exist in Sulawesi although some are slightly different. You might be confuse when you see a boat shape warangka and your guess the keris is from Sulawesi but when you see the bilah it is very Javanese or Semenanjung. Again, outside look can be similar but inside (the bilah) is totally different because it has been adjusted to the local pattern. I like to add Bugis before the region, eg. Keris Bugis Sumbawa. Why?, because in the outside look (Warangka) is similar to real Bugis (Sulawesi) but in fact in the inside it is Sumbawa.

I am researching and examining, finding facts and datas of keris bugis spread in Nusantara for the last few years and hopefully with the support from friends in Vikingsword I am able to release a book about Keris Bugis sometimes early next year.

Thank you

Andi M. Irvan Zulfikar a.k.a. Sipakatuo

Jean · 4th October 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sipakatuo

Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Keris Bugis Bima

I am researching and examining, finding facts and datas of keris bugis spread in Nusantara for the last few years and hopefully with the support from friends in Vikingsword I am able to release a book about Keris Bugis sometimes early next year.

Thank you

Andi M. Irvan Zulfikar a.k.a. Sipakatuo

Dear Sipakatuo,
It is very good news to hear about your project to write a book about keris Bugis in Nusantara as the knowledge about these krisses is very much lacking, I already reserve my copy!
Best regards
Jean

Gustav · 4th October 2009, 10:31 AM

Dear Sipakatuo,

thank you very much for the interesting post.

Sajen · 4th October 2009, 12:15 PM

Dear Sipakatuo,

very interesting post and you will have all my assistance for your book!

sajen

Sajen · 5th October 2009, 03:32 PM

Hello Sipakatuo,

maybe you can enlighten me about this keris. I collect it 1994 in a antique shop on Bali in very bad condition. Someone with good knowledge assumed that it is maybe a Sumbawa keris. What I never have seen before and after is that this keris have a mendak and selut, two pieces from different metal. All other comments are also very welcome, special about dapur and pamor.

David · 5th October 2009, 04:23 PM

I can't speak to the origin, but IMO this uwer was probably added on by someone in Bali. It looks awkward with the keris and i don't think it really belongs there.

Sajen · 5th October 2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I can't speak to the origin, but IMO this uwer was probably added on by someone in Bali. It looks awkward with the keris and i don't think it really belongs there.

Hello David,

thank's for the comment, but I think when not original then already long together with the keris. I found it in very, very bad condition, heavily rusted and I have had big problems to open the hilt from the blade. And mendak and selut have been agglomerate heavily together. The hilt was fixed with hair to the blade and I think that this is a old manner to fix the hilt to the blade.

Detlef

sipakatuo · 7th October 2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Sipakatuo,

maybe you can enlighten me about this keris. I collect it 1994 in a antique shop on Bali in very bad condition. Someone with good knowledge assumed that it is maybe a Sumbawa keris. What I never have seen before and after is that this keris have a mendak and selut, two pieces from different metal. All other comments are also very welcome, special about dapur and pamor.

Hello Sajen

IMHO yours is Sumbawa but the kili-kili/mendak is a mixture. The top part is usually found in Sumatra. Don't be surprise although yours is a replacement, that kind of mendak also exist in Nusa Tenggara Barat. I will post to this forum a Keris typical Sumatra found in NTB. There used to be a large number of Sumatran exiled to NTB and served as Moslem Kiyai/Ulama/Priest along with their family. Kampung Melayu/Melayu Village do exist in Bima and the Sultan of Bima very respect to this people.

sipakatuo · 7th October 2009, 05:25 AM

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Sajen · 7th October 2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sipakatuo

Hello Sajen

IMHO yours is Sumbawa but the kili-kili/mendak is a mixture. The top part is usually found in Sumatra. Don't be surprise although yours is a replacement, that kind of mendak also exist in Nusa Tenggara Barat. I will post to this forum a Keris typical Sumatra found in NTB. There used to be a large number of Sumatran exiled to NTB and served as Moslem Kiyai/Ulama/Priest along with their family. Kampung Melayu/Melayu Village do exist in Bima and the Sultan of Bima very respect to this people.

Hello Sipakatuo,

thank you very much. So which specifics let you think that this is a Sumbawa keris? The keris you show have indeed a very similar selut/pendokok. But what is with extra mendak? I am sure that the hilt, pendokok and mendak very long together with the blade.

sajen

Moshah · 5th November 2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sipakatuo

I like to add Bugis before the region, eg. Keris Bugis Sumbawa. Why?, because in the outside look (Warangka) is similar to real Bugis (Sulawesi) but in fact in the inside it is Sumbawa.

Hi all and salam Andi,

By saying this, do you mean that the "bugiseness" in a bugis-sumbawa kerises are only because of it's outside look (warangka + pendok etc)?

Do sumbawa have different warangka and pendok that are of their own design and creation?

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4th October 2009, 03:29 AM	#1
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Keris Bugis Bima Dear All Dynasty of Bima and Dynasty of Gowa have special relationships that last for almost 200 years. It all started in 1616 when Sultan of Bima name Sultan Abdul Khair went to Gowa and learnt Islam. He then married to a princes of Gowa, daughter of Sultan Maliku Said. Sultan Abdul Khair helped Gowa against VOC. He also very close to his Brother in Law name Sultan Hasanudin (I Malombasi Daeng Matawang) Even in the treaty of Bongaya it also stated about Bima as alliance of Gowa. Therefore, it is not surprising to me to see Keris Bugis Makassar also exist in Bima and Sumbawa. It is also mentioned in your (Gustav) link that there were Pande Besi (Smiths) lived in Penana Village in Bima who produced Keris and other traditional weapons. Not only Malacca, Palembang, Batavia, Cirebon, Demak, Tuban, and Makassar who plays important ports. Sumbawa and Bima also considered as important ports between 16 to 18 century. It is also mentioned that Swords from Sumbawa was traded in Palembang. This is also not surprising to me when I see Sword from Palembang has the same model in Bima/Sumbawa. Sultan of Sumbawa and Sultan/Arung from Bugis like to share gifts in form of Tappi (Keris), Alameng (Sword), or Bessi (Spear). As Alan mentioned earlier that in Kupang/Flores also exist Keris Smith known to be Keris Kupang with typical Besi Masir. It is the same like Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Bima most have identical iron. I found Keris Bugis Sumbawa and or Bima have more variety in shapes, the pamor also nicely constructed compare to Keris Bugis Sulawesi. Since Sulawesi has its own iron mining deposited in Luwu, the local smiths like to use iron from Luwu to make weapons. Besi Luwu is rich in nickel therefore keris originated from Sulawesi is slightly different in material compare to keris from Sumbawa and or Bima although sometimes the shape is identical like Tappi Sapukala (Keris Sepokal). I believe as collectors we are aware that Besi Luwu is long traded in Nusantara and also used as bahan pamor in other regions. Therefore, you can see pamor keris from other regions made from besi Luwu. The Bugis influence is strong in Sumbawa, Bima, Sumatra, Kalimantan, and Semenanjung. It shows in the model of Wanua (Warangka) where they adopt boat shape typical form exist in Sulawesi although some are slightly different. You might be confuse when you see a boat shape warangka and your guess the keris is from Sulawesi but when you see the bilah it is very Javanese or Semenanjung. Again, outside look can be similar but inside (the bilah) is totally different because it has been adjusted to the local pattern. I like to add Bugis before the region, eg. Keris Bugis Sumbawa. Why?, because in the outside look (Warangka) is similar to real Bugis (Sulawesi) but in fact in the inside it is Sumbawa. I am researching and examining, finding facts and datas of keris bugis spread in Nusantara for the last few years and hopefully with the support from friends in Vikingsword I am able to release a book about Keris Bugis sometimes early next year. Thank you Andi M. Irvan Zulfikar a.k.a. Sipakatuo

4th October 2009, 10:31 AM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,280	Dear Sipakatuo, thank you very much for the interesting post.

4th October 2009, 12:15 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,207	Dear Sipakatuo, very interesting post and you will have all my assistance for your book! sajen

5th October 2009, 04:23 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	I can't speak to the origin, but IMO this uwer was probably added on by someone in Bali. It looks awkward with the keris and i don't think it really belongs there.