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Join Date: Dec 2008
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I think that is XVIII century because is signed AYALA
original swords of Toledo have AIALA or AIA and DE TOLEDO But what it means this St.Clemens cross ? probably this is a true mark This 1/4 sword :-) was found at the attic in very old house in Poland , in the region Gdańsk / Danzig , maybe come of old German colection ? destroyed by Red Army in 1945 Sorry for my english :-) I know that Kali ordered an ashtray wine ![]() |
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European Armoury Staff
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
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I am a bit too lazy to check if these tables were alredy posted here so, just in case, i post them now.
Not much harm if they are already here, somewhere Fernando . |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Silesia, Poland
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Who can identify these marks?
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EAA Research Consultant
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
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Thanks for posting that Buendia! Its nice to see a posting on this trusty old thread
![]() I'm curious about which book this table of markings is from, it is often helpful to know which context these references are in, as well as which language. Does the book make mention of the authors thoughts on the markings? These are of course markings applied to trade blades, believed to have originated with trade guilds in Northern Italy, they are typically associated with Genoa, and as you can see that name is often used within the marks. Genoan blades traded heavily to the north in colonial activity in the Black Sea as well as of course throughout the Meditteranean. The usually dentated half circles are known as 'sickle marks' most often, though referred to my many other terms including eyelashes or even in some cases hogsbacks. The 'Frindia' or 'Fringia' marks seem to derive from 16th-17th century application, perhaps sometimes later, usually in East European cases and there has been considerable debate on the word(s) which seem to be an acronym or phrase using first letters. It is often seen, as are the 'sickle' marks on Styrian blades, as well as certain other centers. Solingen began copying the marks, though often bracketing other marks inside them, especially the famed ANDREA FERARA, typically seen on blades for the Scottish market. Thanks again Buendia, its always good to see interest in pursuing these fascinating markings and thier associations and application. All the best, Jim |
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