UNUSUAL KILIJ FITTINGS - ... EAST EUROPEAN?

[ariel]

Originally Posted by ALEX

Thanks Ilias. Very Interesting analogy. There are some similarities indeed: a lance in the right hand and shield in the left. The only difference is the gender:-) I believe the figure on the scabbard has a man's face, with the beard... another puzzle.
Are there any references to Greek-mounted Ottoman blades?

A beard?
Where do you see it?

Moreover, if you really want to determine the gender , other regions might be more informative :-)
In this case, I would vote for the XX genotype
Sorry, as an endocrinologist, I just could not resist :-)

[libra]

Hi Ariel
The book that I took the reference is a Greek one.If you are interested I can send you the title.It has a lot of Greek weapons and other folk items.
Best
Ilias

[ilias]

Sorry about that.I answered through my jobs computer and my partner was logged earlier so I answered through his name.
Best
Ilias

[ALEX]

Ariel, I completely agree:-) I thought the face looked man-like. The left side has what appears to be a patch of stubble. It could have been a bad attempt to beautify a woman's face...as Ilias mentioned - those folk artists did the best they could. Good point, Ilias.

Ilias, Philip: Thank you, much appreciate your references and effort.

[ilias]

Hi everyone.
Ariel the book that I took the images is a Greek one with weapons and folk items.If you are interested I will inform you the title and the writer.
I add some pictures Alex as I promissed yesterday for your reference about Ottoman remounted blades and some images I found from sword scabbards just to compare the figures.
The detail of the scabbards decoration of the kilij is at the last picture.
Best
Ilias