18C ivory hilt

TVV · 3rd September 2009, 09:48 PM

While the rarity of an object certainly figures into the price, it is only one of the elements that determine desirability. Certain weapons, even if relatively abundant compared to others, will command higher prices because of their artistic qualities, history and a special, symbolic meaning.

I would guess every collector has a favorite weapon type, which they can never have enough of. For me it would be a shamshir, for a friend of mine it is a yataghan, and for others it might be a kris. I would be willing to overpay for my favorite type, as long as I can afford the price.

It is pointless to try to define what is resonable or unreasonable with a hobby, which is by definition irrational.

Regards,
Teodor

P.S. I also tried to get a bid in just to make sure I did not miss out. By the time I was ready to confirm it, it did not even register.

hideyoshi · 3rd September 2009, 10:21 PM

I have seen a few examples of 19th Century Moro Fullered Krises with twisted core pattern, but never on 18th C. or earlier Moro Krises. It would be nice to see one.
Picked up this old Moro Kris a few weeks ago, nice dual fullering, but no twist core. The two archiac Moro Kris blades below with twist core pattern are much commonly seen.

Bill · 4th September 2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hideyoshi

I have seen a few examples of 19th Century Moro Fullered Krises with twisted core pattern, but never on 18th C. or earlier Moro Krises. It would be nice to see one.
Picked up this old Moro Kris a few weeks ago, nice dual fullering, but no twist core. The two archiac Moro Kris blades below with twist core pattern are much commonly seen.

I agree, it's not likely to come back as a "twist core" as the buyer might be hoping.
What is your opinion as to age of the one in this thread as well as the one you posted.
Details will be appreciated.

hideyoshi · 4th September 2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill

I agree, it's not likely to come back as a "twist core" as the buyer might be hoping.
What is your opinion as to age of the one in this thread as well as the one you posted.
Details will be appreciated.

Hello Bill,
Based on Cato's theory, the Moro Kris in this thread and the one I posted are very old, say 1700's. Also, the angle of the hilt is another indication, this style oftenly seen in older pieces (300 + yrs).
Here's another photo of the Moro Kris that I posted. enjoy

http://www.seegersystems.com/maro/origpics.html

3rd September 2009, 10:21 PM	#2
hideyoshi Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 58	Fullered 18th Century Moro Kris I have seen a few examples of 19th Century Moro Fullered Krises with twisted core pattern, but never on 18th C. or earlier Moro Krises. It would be nice to see one. Picked up this old Moro Kris a few weeks ago, nice dual fullering, but no twist core. The two archiac Moro Kris blades below with twist core pattern are much commonly seen. Attached Images Last edited by hideyoshi; 3rd September 2009 at 11:41 PM.

3rd September 2009, 09:48 PM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	While the rarity of an object certainly figures into the price, it is only one of the elements that determine desirability. Certain weapons, even if relatively abundant compared to others, will command higher prices because of their artistic qualities, history and a special, symbolic meaning. I would guess every collector has a favorite weapon type, which they can never have enough of. For me it would be a shamshir, for a friend of mine it is a yataghan, and for others it might be a kris. I would be willing to overpay for my favorite type, as long as I can afford the price. It is pointless to try to define what is resonable or unreasonable with a hobby, which is by definition irrational. Regards, Teodor P.S. I also tried to get a bid in just to make sure I did not miss out. By the time I was ready to confirm it, it did not even register.