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Old 27th August 2009, 05:01 PM   #1
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I showed this hilt to one of my colleagues, who worships Shiva, and she could recognize that the hilt represented Bhairava. She told me that Monday was Shiva's day (I don't know anything about this), and it so happened that the day I showed it to her was a Monday, so she was understandably happy about the coincidence.

She shared that the right foot turned backwards was a sign of demonic power. Since Bhairava is a wrathful aspect of Shiva, and kills demons, the posture was not inappropriate. Notice the demon face under that backward facing foot. The skulls of the demons he killed were strung together and worn round his neck and limbs. One of the skulls belonged to Brahma. He has a third eye which is usually closed, until the moment when he will destroy the world.

Notice that instead of Garuda behind his headdress, it is Kala. I believe Kala's creation was also related to Shiva. At the centre of the back of his belt, the motif looked like the one-eyed guardian - Bintulu.

The other thing I found out was from a website. It said that Bhairava ripped off one of the heads of Brahma with his left thumbnail. Looking at the long vicious looking thumbnails of this Bhairava, it seems possible.

I don't know the name of the mudra he is displaying.
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Old 27th August 2009, 07:39 PM   #2
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Bali or Madura hit

But very very nice work
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Old 27th August 2009, 07:39 PM   #3
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Bali or Madura hit

But very very nice work
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Old 27th August 2009, 11:30 PM   #4
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Very nice work on this hilt. Is it bone or ivory?
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Old 28th August 2009, 01:29 AM   #5
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Very nice work on this hilt. Is it bone or ivory?
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I think i can safely say it is ivory Dr. D. I can see the grain patterns in the photos. I would say that they did a very nice job adding age color to this piece. Do you know what they used Kai Wee?
Marco, why do you think this is a Madura hilt?
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Old 28th August 2009, 02:08 AM   #6
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I think i can safely say it is ivory Dr. D. I can see the grain patterns in the photos. I would say that they did a very nice job adding age color to this piece. Do you know what they used Kai Wee?
Marco, why do you think this is a Madura hilt?
Tumeric! I have no idea why they stain it... maybe to make it look warmer. Anyway, as mentioned in the 1st post, this piece is contemporary (i.e. current period).
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Old 28th August 2009, 05:57 AM   #7
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i'm pretty sure they stain it to give it a look of aged ivory.
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Old 28th August 2009, 08:23 AM   #8
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That is amazing. I may be an enthusiast of the swords of China, the simple and brutal machete-like blades of the archipelago, and the close quarters weapons of India.... but when I see something like this, I can see how there is more to a keris than a mystical, pointy dagger. Dagger-type side-arms don't need a hilt like that, keris do. I hope you hold onto that. It's a treasure and an antique of tomorrow's.
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Old 28th August 2009, 02:54 PM   #9
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i'm pretty sure they stain it to give it a look of aged ivory.
Yes, and that too... Haha But I have heard that at least in Sumatra and N Malay peninsula, some hilts were traditionally stained when newly made, to impart the desired colour. For e.g. tajong hilts may be stained black to look more aggressive, Sumatran ivory hilts may be stained dark brown, possibly for aesthetic reasons, and some of these hilts have lost their dark stain over time.
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Old 28th August 2009, 10:27 AM   #10
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...Marco, why do you think this is a Madura hilt?
I think the hit (not selut) could be also a Madura hit for the very great quality of the carving that remenber me that some years ago i saw in Jawa some amazing ivory hit works full of incredible details (mybe too mach).
These hits had been made by a living artist in Madura . Some hits had Sumatra pattern, other Bugis and one (incredible carved on two/three different level from surface down in deep) Bali.
Of course this is only a my personal "flash" impression born seeing a "photo"
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Old 28th August 2009, 11:50 AM   #11
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I'm a babe in the woods i can tell, I saw the grain you mentioned David but when I saw the color I thought if this is new ivory it shouldn't be that color
Tumeric really is an all purpose spice
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Old 28th August 2009, 03:24 PM   #12
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I think the hit (not selut) could be also a Madura hit for the very great quality of the carving that remenber me that some years ago i saw in Jawa some amazing ivory hit works full of incredible details (mybe too mach).
These hits had been made by a living artist in Madura . Some hits had Sumatra pattern, other Bugis and one (incredible carved on two/three different level from surface down in deep) Bali.
Of course this is only a my personal "flash" impression born seeing a "photo"
Hi Marco,

We need more artists of this level of dedication and talent.
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Old 30th August 2009, 03:29 PM   #13
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A masterpice of carving this hilt, congrats!
Bali have still great artists of carving so this hilt don't need to be a Madura work.
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Old 31st August 2009, 12:49 AM   #14
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I think the hit (not selut) could be also a Madura hit for the very great quality of the carving that remenber me that some years ago i saw in Jawa some amazing ivory hit works full of incredible details (mybe too mach).
These hits had been made by a living artist in Madura . Some hits had Sumatra pattern, other Bugis and one (incredible carved on two/three different level from surface down in deep) Bali.
Of course this is only a my personal "flash" impression born seeing a "photo"
Ah, i understand you better now Marco. Clearly this hilt is stylistically a Bali hilt. That is what i am referring to when i say that it is Bali. Where the artist actually lives might be another issue, but to me this is a Bali hilt regardless of the island it's maker live on because it seems clear that was the carvers intention. I do agree with Sajen that there are still many fine carvers on Bali. Perhaps Kai Wee knows more about the residency of the carver.
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Old 31st August 2009, 02:39 PM   #15
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This hilt was brought over by a runner from Bali, so I guess we all concluded that it was from Bali. The workmanship ties in with what we have seen from Bali as well. We also agreed that this is not an old hilt, hence the contemporary tag.
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Old 28th August 2009, 02:07 AM   #16
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It's ivory. I don't think this hilt qualifies as Madurese...
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