Pattani Naga Keris

David · 22nd August 2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PenangsangII

the keris in question was discussed in an open forum last year. I personally know most of the forumites in that Malay forum (not exactly a forum, but a forum-like websites, i.e multiply.com). Though there were many opinions regarding the "pattani naga blade", me and some friends (a keris group) concluded among ourselves that the naga was carved more recently (and crudely done at that) whilst the blade may have some age to it.... hope my post does not ruffle any feathers...... I am quite vocal that many Malaysian keris collecters, esp those who have vested interests (collecters cum keris sellers/ vendors) despise what ever my keris group represents

Sorry, my confusion continues. How is it that you know that the keris Heinz has pruchased is this same keris that was discussed in in this Malay forum?

Greybeard · 24th August 2009, 06:46 AM

Hi David, hi Penangsang,

I must admit that I`m confused, too!

Penangsang, it`s amazing that you are able to identify my keris as the one discussed in the other forum, just by my vague description!

All I have thus far are pictures of small size, provided by the seller, showing an old looking keris with a simple, but IMO not really crude naga. The keris was offered as "Naga Timbul" (whatever dapur this may be), but not as "Pattani Naga Keris".

Well, the keris should arrive soon. With the keris in hand, I`ll probably be able to tell more ...

Regards,

Heinz

PenangsangII · 25th August 2009, 04:28 AM

Hi Heinz and David.....

Sorry so much to cause both of you the confusion.... I was actually referring to the Malay forum where the naga pattani was discussed as I was also actively involved in the discussion. Heinz's keris could actually a different one, and I have no knowledge of the seller either. Again, sorry for the confusion due to my bad English understanding.

Greybeard · 25th August 2009, 05:30 AM

Hello Penangsang

Thank you for your clarification. Yes, different languages can sometimes be a problem. My native language is German, and I sometimes find it rather difficult to express myself clearly in English.

Well, my keris will arrive soon. Then I`ll see what I`ve bought.

Best regards,

Heinz

Greybeard · 25th August 2009, 06:46 AM

Dear Penangsang

In the "Multiply" forum (November 2008) I found a Malay discussion regarding a Naga Pattani keris. Could this be the discussion you are refering to? If so, the "mystery" is solved: The keris in that discussion (straight blade) and my keris (13-luk blade) are definitively not identical! Furthermore, the naga`s style is not the same.

Best regards,

Heinz

Greybeard · 11th September 2009, 09:12 AM

My Naga keris finally arrived. Its overall appearance and my feeling tell me it`s old and original. But who knows ... Anyway, I like it a lot!

Regards,

Heinz

David · 11th September 2009, 02:50 PM

Will you be posting any photos of it?

11th September 2009, 09:12 AM	#6
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Naga keris arrived My Naga keris finally arrived. Its overall appearance and my feeling tell me it`s old and original. But who knows ... Anyway, I like it a lot! Regards, Heinz

24th August 2009, 06:46 AM	#2
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hi David, hi Penangsang, I must admit that I`m confused, too! Penangsang, it`s amazing that you are able to identify my keris as the one discussed in the other forum, just by my vague description! All I have thus far are pictures of small size, provided by the seller, showing an old looking keris with a simple, but IMO not really crude naga. The keris was offered as "Naga Timbul" (whatever dapur this may be), but not as "Pattani Naga Keris". Well, the keris should arrive soon. With the keris in hand, I`ll probably be able to tell more ... Regards, Heinz

25th August 2009, 04:28 AM	#3
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	Hi Heinz and David..... Sorry so much to cause both of you the confusion.... I was actually referring to the Malay forum where the naga pattani was discussed as I was also actively involved in the discussion. Heinz's keris could actually a different one, and I have no knowledge of the seller either. Again, sorry for the confusion due to my bad English understanding.

25th August 2009, 05:30 AM	#4
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hello Penangsang Thank you for your clarification. Yes, different languages can sometimes be a problem. My native language is German, and I sometimes find it rather difficult to express myself clearly in English. Well, my keris will arrive soon. Then I`ll see what I`ve bought. Best regards, Heinz

25th August 2009, 06:46 AM	#5
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Dear Penangsang In the "Multiply" forum (November 2008) I found a Malay discussion regarding a Naga Pattani keris. Could this be the discussion you are refering to? If so, the "mystery" is solved: The keris in that discussion (straight blade) and my keris (13-luk blade) are definitively not identical! Furthermore, the naga`s style is not the same. Best regards, Heinz

11th September 2009, 02:50 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Will you be posting any photos of it?