Tajong for viewing pleasure and comments !

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by BluErf

I believe the nose is a replacement. Nicely done.

I suppose so.. with a sudden termination of carvings, when it reaches the nose.. it looks like a hybrid of the bangsa agong and a typical later form, perhaps..

[BluErf]

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

it looks like a hybrid of the bangsa agong and a typical later form, perhaps..

Yes, that's why I say it is inspired. But it is undoubtedly done by somebody who is very familiar with the tajong.

Sajen - I think you may need to see more tajongs to notice the subtlety.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by BluErf

Yes, that's why I say it is inspired. But it is undoubtedly done by somebody who is very familiar with the tajong.

Sajen - I think you may need to see more tajongs to notice the subtlety.

Hello BluErf,

you are correct, I know nearly nothing about Tajong keris.
But I have learned and have been remembered from Mr. Maisey some time ago that it isn't possible to have "one luk" keris.

We cannot have a one luk keris; lowest count must be three.

You begin the count on the first luk above the gandik and finish the count on the same side of the blade, thus lowest number of luk can only be three.


But maybe I am wrong by this and this "rule" isn't valid by Tajong keris?
I know that you have a great experience by Tajong keris and I appreciate your knowledge very much, so please teach me by this.
Sincerely,

sajen

[A. G. Maisey]

Any person, or group of people, can decide how they wish to refer to anything.

If a person, or group of people, wish to refer to a keris with no luk, but with a blade that is clearly lurus as "luk satu", well, so be it. That is their decision.

However, according to what I have been taught, there is no such thing as "luk satu".

One luk does not exist, and logically cannot exist.

But anybody at all is entitled to his own opinion.

[PenangsangII]

I agree.... there's no such thing as luk satu....... and i believe it's just a recently concocted terminology......

Alan, do you think that the keris had undergone reshaping works / besutan esp at the sorsoran, to be precise, reshaping the worn out blade to display perfect ri pandan and other fret works?

[A. G. Maisey]

I don't know.

The sorsoran does look a bit clumsy and rigid, but whether this is the maker's inadequacy, or whether it is evidence of somebody having a bit of a fiddle, I wouldn't like to say, especially from a photo.

[mykeris]

Hi David, I ll comeback to our question later. Regards, Mykeris.

[BluErf]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello BluErf,

you are correct, I know nearly nothing about Tajong keris.
But I have learned and have been remembered from Mr. Maisey some time ago that it isn't possible to have "one luk" keris.

We cannot have a one luk keris; lowest count must be three.

You begin the count on the first luk above the gandik and finish the count on the same side of the blade, thus lowest number of luk can only be three.


But maybe I am wrong by this and this "rule" isn't valid by Tajong keris?
I know that you have a great experience by Tajong keris and I appreciate your knowledge very much, so please teach me by this.
Sincerely,

sajen

Hi Sajen,

I wasn't talking about the keris blade; I was referring to the hilt being inspired.

Personally, I am not really bothered about the luk one or lurus thing, but I believe up North, they don't really refer to such blades as luk one.