Akar Bahar Hilts

Gustav · 9th August 2009, 11:32 AM

They all are very beautiful, Marcoceris.

The first one reminds me of some archaical hilts. Is it probably the oldest one of these? The second has (for me) the most beautiful material, each detailed carving would disperse the attention for it.

Rick · 9th August 2009, 01:52 PM

Marco, you made my day .

Thanks so much .
Rick

VANDOO · 12th August 2009, 05:21 AM

THIS MATERIAL WAS DISCUSSED IN AN OLD POST BY LEE JONES 6,22,2001 TITELED (INFORMATION SOUGHT ON SINGHALESE PHIA KAETTA). YOU MIGHT FIND THE INFORMATION THERE OF USE IN THIS CURRENT DISCUSSION. THE NAME USED FOR THE AKAR BAHAR IS BLACK CORAL. I WOULD ATTACH IT FOR EASE OF ACCESS BUT DON'T KNOW HOW SO A SEARCH OF THE ARCHIVES WILL BRING IT UP.
BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLES YOU ALL HAVE CONGRADULATIONS.

Greybeard · 14th August 2009, 06:29 AM

All coral hilts discussed and shown here are black. Recently I bought a keris with a hilt that is -- according to the seller -- made of white coral. This material is very heavy and looks like marble with some tiny black impurities in it. The hilt is simply but nicely carved in a deman style. I wonder if the black and the white coral are essentially the same (except for the color, of course).

Heinz

Sajen · 14th August 2009, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greybeard

All coral hilts discussed and shown here are black. Recently I bought a keris with a hilt that is -- according to the seller -- made of white coral. This material is very heavy and looks like marble with some tiny black impurities in it. The hilt is simply but nicely carved in a deman style. I wonder if the black and the white coral are essentially the same (except for the color, of course).

Heinz

Hello Heinz,

you can show us a picture from this hilt?

regards,

Detlef

Greybeard · 14th August 2009, 08:37 AM

Dear Detlef

Thank you for your interest in my hilt. Sorry, but for some technical reason I still cannot post pictures.

Regards,

Heinz

Alam Shah · 14th August 2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greybeard

All coral hilts discussed and shown here are black. Recently I bought a keris with a hilt that is -- according to the seller -- made of white coral. This material is very heavy and looks like marble with some tiny black impurities in it. The hilt is simply but nicely carved in a deman style. I wonder if the black and the white coral are essentially the same (except for the color, of course).

Heinz

Perhaps you're referring to Kemoh (Tridacna).. (( link ))
See the pictures from the link.. is that what you're referring to?

Greybeard · 14th August 2009, 12:47 PM

Hello Alam Shah

I think you are right. When looking at the pictures from the link you provided, I do indeed realize much similarity between those hilts and my hilt, with the tiny dark spots in the material being nearly identical. The heavy weight seems to be typical of tridacna hilts as well.

Well, as it appears I own a (very expensive!) tridacna hilt instead of a coral hilt! Anyway, it looks nice ...

Regards,

Heinz

Alam Shah · 14th August 2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Greybeard

... Well, as it appears I own a (very expensive!) tridacna hilt instead of a coral hilt! Anyway, it looks nice ...

Well, congrats would be in order then, Heinz..

expensive, rare and fragile too.. so do take care..

14th August 2009, 06:29 AM	#4
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	White "akar bahar"? All coral hilts discussed and shown here are black. Recently I bought a keris with a hilt that is -- according to the seller -- made of white coral. This material is very heavy and looks like marble with some tiny black impurities in it. The hilt is simply but nicely carved in a deman style. I wonder if the black and the white coral are essentially the same (except for the color, of course). Heinz

9th August 2009, 11:32 AM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,280	They all are very beautiful, Marcoceris. The first one reminds me of some archaical hilts. Is it probably the oldest one of these? The second has (for me) the most beautiful material, each detailed carving would disperse the attention for it.

9th August 2009, 01:52 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Marco, you made my day . Thanks so much . Rick

12th August 2009, 05:21 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THIS MATERIAL WAS DISCUSSED IN AN OLD POST BY LEE JONES 6,22,2001 TITELED (INFORMATION SOUGHT ON SINGHALESE PHIA KAETTA). YOU MIGHT FIND THE INFORMATION THERE OF USE IN THIS CURRENT DISCUSSION. THE NAME USED FOR THE AKAR BAHAR IS BLACK CORAL. I WOULD ATTACH IT FOR EASE OF ACCESS BUT DON'T KNOW HOW SO A SEARCH OF THE ARCHIVES WILL BRING IT UP. BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLES YOU ALL HAVE CONGRADULATIONS.

14th August 2009, 08:37 AM	#6
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Dear Detlef Thank you for your interest in my hilt. Sorry, but for some technical reason I still cannot post pictures. Regards, Heinz

14th August 2009, 12:47 PM	#8
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hello Alam Shah I think you are right. When looking at the pictures from the link you provided, I do indeed realize much similarity between those hilts and my hilt, with the tiny dark spots in the material being nearly identical. The heavy weight seems to be typical of tridacna hilts as well. Well, as it appears I own a (very expensive!) tridacna hilt instead of a coral hilt! Anyway, it looks nice ... Regards, Heinz