A Very Rare Early 16th Century Small Alcove Cannon (Nischengeschütz)

Spiridonov · 28th July 2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

The measurements are as the text states:

barrel length 83 cm, cal. 23 mm.

These are the only photos I have.

Best,
Michael

Is it 1500 or 1480 year?

Matchlock · 28th July 2009, 01:50 PM

It can be dated to ca. 1500 quite exactly as I wrote.

Michael

Spiridonov · 28th July 2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

It can be dated to ca. 1500 quite exactly as I wrote.

Michael

why did you dated so? Do you have photos of another wallguns of 1470-80?

Matchlock · 28th July 2009, 02:57 PM

Hi Spiridonov,

Please do understand that I cannot repeat all the dating criteria and images that I posted here before; that's why I sent you the link to all my former posts.

It took me about 30 years to learn by close study of the respective objects and their formal criteria, tiny and almost meaningless though they may seem to others. All I can try to do here is give sort of a bottom line, quintessence or take home message citing the most visible and important criteria.

For the Nuremberg haquebut in question these are length, handle, shape of the barrrel, shape and place of the touch hole, and the short and heavily swamped muzzle section.

I know it's not that easy to be a believer sometimes and you are working really hard trying to grasp my points, especially given the fact that English is neither my nor your native language. So I do hope that you can accept what I have been trying to convey.

Best,

Michael

Spiridonov · 28th July 2009, 04:24 PM

Thanks. I have understood all. It is a pity that this wallgun is later than I thought. So do you have photos of wallguns of the period wich interesting me? Especially with calibres about 21-25 mm and barrel length about 600-800 mm.
Wthat is the date and parametras of this (look at photo)?
Sorry that i have too many questions.

Matchlock · 28th July 2009, 04:34 PM

Hi Spiridonov,

Don't worry, there cannot be too many questions, just an old man too slow on the trigger of reply.

I will be glad to tell you everything I can about those three haquebuts but can you get more images and in much higher resolution? In what museum are they? The Army Museum of St. Petersburg?

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 28th July 2009, 04:39 PM

This fotos from museum of Tabor.Czechia. Sorry, I have no another photos of this

28th July 2009, 04:24 PM	#5
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Thanks. I have understood all. It is a pity that this wallgun is later than I thought. So do you have photos of wallguns of the period wich interesting me? Especially with calibres about 21-25 mm and barrel length about 600-800 mm. Wthat is the date and parametras of this (look at photo)? Sorry that i have too many questions. Attached Images

28th July 2009, 01:50 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	It can be dated to ca. 1500 quite exactly as I wrote. Michael

28th July 2009, 02:57 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Spiridonov, Please do understand that I cannot repeat all the dating criteria and images that I posted here before; that's why I sent you the link to all my former posts. It took me about 30 years to learn by close study of the respective objects and their formal criteria, tiny and almost meaningless though they may seem to others. All I can try to do here is give sort of a bottom line, quintessence or take home message citing the most visible and important criteria. For the Nuremberg haquebut in question these are length, handle, shape of the barrrel, shape and place of the touch hole, and the short and heavily swamped muzzle section. I know it's not that easy to be a believer sometimes and you are working really hard trying to grasp my points, especially given the fact that English is neither my nor your native language. So I do hope that you can accept what I have been trying to convey. Best, Michael

28th July 2009, 04:34 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Spiridonov, Don't worry, there cannot be too many questions, just an old man too slow on the trigger of reply. I will be glad to tell you everything I can about those three haquebuts but can you get more images and in much higher resolution? In what museum are they? The Army Museum of St. Petersburg? Best, Michael

28th July 2009, 04:39 PM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	This fotos from museum of Tabor.Czechia. Sorry, I have no another photos of this