Pls comment on this Yataghan

Hatumesh · 16th July 2009, 02:15 PM

Zifir,
You said that with a clear picture you might be able to translate the inscription on this Yataghan. Here are better photos (I hope).
Thanks a lot.
Gadi.

Valjhun · 16th July 2009, 10:23 PM

Nice piece. old repair on the handle and very nice silverwork on scabbard. Not my style, but still nice.

ariel · 29th December 2009, 07:56 PM

Repair, schmepear...
It is dated 1219 =1804. We should all look that good at 205 :-)

Zifir · 4th January 2010, 05:55 PM

Sorry Hatumesh,
I have been looking at the inscription for some time, I could not even make a single word out of it. I saw one or two similar yatağans with the same type of engraved inscriptions, I could not read them either.

Yannis · 11th January 2010, 09:43 AM

I believe that this is a composite piece (not old repairs). It has old a new parts. I have seen similar coming from Bulgaria last years but it can be made anywhere there are a lot pieces from old yataghans

Dom · 11th January 2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zifir

Sorry Hatumesh,
I have been looking at the inscription for some time, I could not even make a single word out of it.(

your deception it's not complet

because, what "ariel" though to be a date, in fact it's
just an illegible writting, my translater is FORMAL

I got a strong argumentation with her about that subject,
and she refuse to modify her judgement
I was sharing "areil" point of view ...

conclusion;
- it's not writting in Turkish
- it's not writting in Arabic

it's what ?? Farsi ?? ... Urdu ?

(joke)

à +

Dom

Emanuel · 12th January 2010, 12:59 AM

Here is a yataghan with what appears to be a blade from the same workshop - notice the very similar decoration http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=403

Emanuel

Dom · 12th January 2010, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emanuel

Here is a yataghan with what appears to be a blade from the same workshop - notice the very similar decoration http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=403

Emanuel

Hi
again, it's not Arabic

à +

Dom

ariel · 12th January 2010, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emanuel

Here is a yataghan with what appears to be a blade from the same workshop - notice the very similar decoration http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=403

Emanuel

I am not sure it is the same workshop: this decoration is pretty standard. If one looks in the Astvatsaturyan's book, there are at least 10-15 virtually identical examples.

Zifir · 13th January 2010, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

your deception it's not complet

because, what "ariel" though to be a date, in fact it's
just an illegible writting, my translater is FORMAL

I got a strong argumentation with her about that subject,
and she refuse to modify her judgement
I was sharing "areil" point of view ...

conclusion;
- it's not writting in Turkish
- it's not writting in Arabic

it's what ?? Farsi ?? ... Urdu ?

(joke)

à +

Dom

I am not definitely sure that the inscription is not Turkish, only I was unable to read it. There is still possiblity that it may be Turkish.

16th July 2009, 02:15 PM	#1
Hatumesh Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 24	Zifir, You said that with a clear picture you might be able to translate the inscription on this Yataghan. Here are better photos (I hope). Thanks a lot. Gadi. Attached Images

16th July 2009, 10:23 PM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Nice piece. old repair on the handle and very nice silverwork on scabbard. Not my style, but still nice.

29th December 2009, 07:56 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Repair, schmepear... It is dated 1219 =1804. We should all look that good at 205 :-)

4th January 2010, 05:55 PM	#4
Zifir Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Sorry Hatumesh, I have been looking at the inscription for some time, I could not even make a single word out of it. I saw one or two similar yatağans with the same type of engraved inscriptions, I could not read them either.

11th January 2010, 09:43 AM	#5
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	I believe that this is a composite piece (not old repairs). It has old a new parts. I have seen similar coming from Bulgaria last years but it can be made anywhere there are a lot pieces from old yataghans

12th January 2010, 12:59 AM	#7
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Here is a yataghan with what appears to be a blade from the same workshop - notice the very similar decoration http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=403 Emanuel