Two Pade

Maurice · 4th July 2009, 09:20 PM

Interesting thread this turns out to be. Although I have no pade myself (only I have handled some in privat collections of others), I like them very much and in some way I am attracted to the awesome shape of these blades.
Nice pieces Michael and Roy.
I also checked my database and I could neither find a pade with a handle like the one of Roy's pade. It looks like some kind of fish-figure to me.

Maurice

Sajen · 4th July 2009, 10:26 PM

Hi Royston,

please you can show us a close up from the handle?

sajen

Royston · 5th July 2009, 08:43 AM

Sajen
Michael
Maurice

Glad you like it. Thanks for the comments.

I will post some more photo's, but I am away from home at work for the next couple of weeks so it will have to wait until I get home.
Sad B that I am I carry a hard drive around with me and it does contain a sample of photo's from my collection but not everything in detail. There is only this one picture of the pade.

Please be patient. I will get back to you.

Mytribalworld · 5th July 2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

Interesting thread this turns out to be. Although I have no pade myself (only I have handled some in privat collections of others), I like them very much and in some way I am attracted to the awesome shape of these blades.
Nice pieces Michael and Roy.
I also checked my database and I could neither find a pade with a handle like the one of Roy's pade. It looks like some kind of fish-figure to me.

Maurice

Nice thread BTW!
I think the Pade of Royston is a traded blade from South east Celebes and the handle looks into the direction of a Tobelo ( Halmahera,Moluccas) handle.

Arjan.

VVV · 6th July 2009, 05:45 PM

Here is the late Pade I mentioned above.
Arjan, what´s your source for Tobelo?

Michael

Mytribalworld · 6th July 2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

Here is the late Pade I mentioned above.
Arjan, what´s your source for Tobelo?

Michael

Hi Michael,

A small booklet called Tobelo " De waarde der dingen" about bride gifts in the Mollucan Tobelo culture where a few swords are pictured with more or less the same hilts. I will see if I can find it.

Arjan.

Sajen · 6th July 2009, 09:03 PM

Hello Arjan and Michael,

I show a picture of this small book from the swords already in this threat:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=pade

When I look to the sheat from Michael's newer Pade I have to think more to Sulawesi sword sheats.
I sold not long ago a sword (maybe a wall decoration from Indonesia) with a similar hilt.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300312396934

Maybe this hilt form is not unkommon for the region?

sajen

VVV · 6th July 2009, 09:48 PM

Then I know which book you mean.
I don´t think the hilts and the swords shown in this book is that close to
Roy´s chopper.
In the Leiden collection there are 2 resembling swords found in Yamdena.
But I haven´t seen any "closer resembling" Roy´s blade- and hilt-wise in Leiden.
On my later chopper I also suspect that it´s SE Sulawesi, both sheath and blade.

Michael

Mytribalworld · 14th July 2009, 07:15 PM

Pades from Kei Islands

5th July 2009, 08:43 AM	#3
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	More photo's Sajen Michael Maurice Glad you like it. Thanks for the comments. I will post some more photo's, but I am away from home at work for the next couple of weeks so it will have to wait until I get home. Sad B that I am I carry a hard drive around with me and it does contain a sample of photo's from my collection but not everything in detail. There is only this one picture of the pade. Please be patient. I will get back to you.

6th July 2009, 05:45 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Here is the late Pade I mentioned above. Arjan, what´s your source for Tobelo? Michael Attached Images

14th July 2009, 07:15 PM	#9
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	more pades Pades from Kei Islands Attached Images

4th July 2009, 09:20 PM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Interesting thread this turns out to be. Although I have no pade myself (only I have handled some in privat collections of others), I like them very much and in some way I am attracted to the awesome shape of these blades. Nice pieces Michael and Roy. I also checked my database and I could neither find a pade with a handle like the one of Roy's pade. It looks like some kind of fish-figure to me. Maurice

4th July 2009, 10:26 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hi Royston, please you can show us a close up from the handle? sajen

6th July 2009, 09:03 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Arjan and Michael, I show a picture of this small book from the swords already in this threat: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=pade When I look to the sheat from Michael's newer Pade I have to think more to Sulawesi sword sheats. I sold not long ago a sword (maybe a wall decoration from Indonesia) with a similar hilt. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300312396934 Maybe this hilt form is not unkommon for the region? sajen

6th July 2009, 09:48 PM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Then I know which book you mean. I don´t think the hilts and the swords shown in this book is that close to Roy´s chopper. In the Leiden collection there are 2 resembling swords found in Yamdena. But I haven´t seen any "closer resembling" Roy´s blade- and hilt-wise in Leiden. On my later chopper I also suspect that it´s SE Sulawesi, both sheath and blade. Michael