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Old 29th June 2009, 04:02 AM   #1
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From what I can see it looks nicely executed .
I like the ada ada and the strongly defined work in the sorsoran .

Any ideas yourself, Ferry ?
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This is looks like an unfinished keris for me. you can see there are so many areas with clumsy tool mark. the sraweyan is not smooth(need more work on this), the pijetan/blumbangan, the gandik, the sirah cecak, another hours of smoothing job would make it beautifull.

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Old 29th June 2009, 04:54 AM   #2
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Its finished Ferry --- according to the man who made it.

Its just not finished to a high standard. Don't forget that very often a lowly keris will be made with very limited tools. The final finishing was often done with pieces of stone or terra cotta, and the final polish with ground terra cotta and water, or ground coral and water.
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Old 29th June 2009, 10:20 PM   #3
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This is looks like an unfinished keris for me. you can see there are so many areas with clumsy tool mark. the sraweyan is not smooth(need more work on this), the pijetan/blumbangan, the gandik, the sirah cecak, another hours of smoothing job would make it beautifull.

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Dear Ferrylaki,

I think it is difficult to see it clearly on the pictures from the seller, it is an old blade and what we see is maybe only corrosion. The blade have had maybe harder corrosion and is repolished and this not smooth?
I will try to make better pics when I hold it in my hands.

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Old 9th July 2009, 02:43 PM   #4
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Hello,

received the blade and it seems to my eyes that the not smooth finish of the blade is a mixture between a really not smooth finish of the blade and maybe a grit blasting and cleaning with crude tools to remove corrosion from a former owner of the blade. You can see many cratches from a file at the blade and unevennesses at the complete blade what let me think that the blade is cleaned by grit/sand blasting one time. It's a shame!

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Old 9th July 2009, 03:18 PM   #5
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A few hours with wet & dry paper, a light re-etch, and you'll have something pretty OK.

When we buy keris from outside the culture it is not at all unusual to expect to have to do a bit of work to bring them to where they should be.
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A few hours with wet & dry paper, a light re-etch, and you'll have something pretty OK.

When we buy keris from outside the culture it is not at all unusual to expect to have to do a bit of work to bring them to where they should be.
Yes, it will be a work for rainy and cold days in future and then a search for a nice sarung.

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Old 10th July 2009, 03:56 AM   #7
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Yes, it will be a work for rainy and cold days in future and then a search for a nice sarung.

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It looks better in your photograph. look at the pijetan and blumbangan. it still untouched and shows us that it is an old keris. the sogokan loks very fine, the kembang kacang is strong. good luck with the sanding process. you'll find this keris more attractive and beautiful. what style of sarong would you like? 16 inch keris is a little bit longer for a javanese keris, I agree with Alan. or maybe you've already have a warangka for this keris?
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It looks better in your photograph. look at the pijetan and blumbangan. it still untouched and shows us that it is an old keris. the sogokan loks very fine, the kembang kacang is strong. good luck with the sanding process. you'll find this keris more attractive and beautiful. what style of sarong would you like? 16 inch keris is a little bit longer for a javanese keris, I agree with Alan. or maybe you've already have a warangka for this keris?
Hello Ferry,

thank you, yes also at the peksi you can see that it is an old blade, but some cratches I have to sand with wet paper to get a smooth facing. And Mr. Maisey have been correct when he say that it is most probably a Lombok blade so I have to look for sarung from there. A warangka with this size I don't have. Maybe I will get one by e-bay one day or by my next trip to Indonesia.

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