Pesh, Choora ???

Atlantia · 24th June 2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by katana

Hi Warren,
I would definately give the blade an etch, there does seem to be some 'patterning' in certain areas....could just be the photographs.....but then again, nothing ventured ..nothing gained. I'm beginning to wonder whether this is a re-hilted example with a older, 'cleaned' (read heavily scratched with grit that was too coarse ) blade.

fingers crossed

Regards David

Good point David,
Always hope, just look at that 'bowie' I etched! You never know....
And anyways, the proper finishing will definately improve the dagger

Warren McQ · 25th June 2009, 09:10 AM

Thanks Guys,
Yes, I do see a pattern in the blade so I'm going to do an etch ASAP to bring out the , what I think is a Wootz pattern. I'll try to post some better pics in the morning.
I don't know how we could ascertain whether this is an old blade that's been re-handled,
Any Ideas ??

Warren in Arizona

Sikh_soldier · 27th June 2009, 02:20 AM

Hi warren,

You have a very nice, clean example of a Choora, I had a similair one (now sold) and I too did not know what the handle was made out of, someone had suggested plastic, but there was areas near the pins that held the handle where the rust had bled into the handle and discoloured it, I did not think that this would happen with plastic but only bone.

if bone does any of the forum members know what type of bone?

Bally

kronckew · 27th June 2009, 09:23 PM

looks like a slightly less decorated version of this one. 13" overall in scabbard, out it's 12" overall (8" blade, 4" handle)

camel bone is a popular knife scale material, it can also be dyed to just about any color, stained heat treated (scorched) and carved to look like stag or impala horn, etc. giraffe bone is another, probably not found in afghan circles. maybe sheep, goat, camel, horse... and of course the 'I' word which i shall not apply to mine.

Warren McQ · 28th June 2009, 05:30 AM

A little update on this knife,
I've tried etching the blade with warm vinegar without much luck.
there is a pattern visible under 10X so I'll have to try something more aggressive.
The grip material is definitely synthetic, it smells like celluloid when rubbed.
All in all I'm still very happy with this knife.

Thanks to all for your help and interest,

Warren in Arizona

Andrew · 30th June 2009, 06:31 AM

Warren, you might try polishing out the grind marks in that surface before etching--until you do, I don't think you'll pull out any characteristics of the metal.

I'd try very, very fine grit wet sandpaper. You can pick up the kind I'm talking about at a hobby shop.

Go slow.

Rick · 30th June 2009, 04:43 PM

Terms, it's always terms .

Are they one and the same; Pesh and Choora ?
Or are they different forms ?

Pesh or Choora ? :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=karud

27th June 2009, 09:23 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,259	looks like a slightly less decorated version of this one. 13" overall in scabbard, out it's 12" overall (8" blade, 4" handle) camel bone is a popular knife scale material, it can also be dyed to just about any color, stained heat treated (scorched) and carved to look like stag or impala horn, etc. giraffe bone is another, probably not found in afghan circles. maybe sheep, goat, camel, horse... and of course the 'I' word which i shall not apply to mine. Last edited by kronckew; 27th June 2009 at 09:43 PM.

25th June 2009, 09:10 AM	#2
Warren McQ Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 40	Thanks Guys, Yes, I do see a pattern in the blade so I'm going to do an etch ASAP to bring out the , what I think is a Wootz pattern. I'll try to post some better pics in the morning. I don't know how we could ascertain whether this is an old blade that's been re-handled, Any Ideas ?? Warren in Arizona

27th June 2009, 02:20 AM	#3
Sikh_soldier Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 87	Hi warren, You have a very nice, clean example of a Choora, I had a similair one (now sold) and I too did not know what the handle was made out of, someone had suggested plastic, but there was areas near the pins that held the handle where the rust had bled into the handle and discoloured it, I did not think that this would happen with plastic but only bone. if bone does any of the forum members know what type of bone? Bally

28th June 2009, 05:30 AM	#5
Warren McQ Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 40	A little update on this knife, I've tried etching the blade with warm vinegar without much luck. there is a pattern visible under 10X so I'll have to try something more aggressive. The grip material is definitely synthetic, it smells like celluloid when rubbed. All in all I'm still very happy with this knife. Thanks to all for your help and interest, Warren in Arizona

30th June 2009, 06:31 AM	#6
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Warren, you might try polishing out the grind marks in that surface before etching--until you do, I don't think you'll pull out any characteristics of the metal. I'd try very, very fine grit wet sandpaper. You can pick up the kind I'm talking about at a hobby shop. Go slow.

30th June 2009, 04:43 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Terms, it's always terms . Are they one and the same; Pesh and Choora ? Or are they different forms ? Pesh or Choora ? : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=karud