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21st June 2009, 04:11 PM
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Hi Spiridonov,
These are the first good quality images that I have seen of these early Russian guns. The barrels are even older, late 15th century, and were restocked with 'modern' snap tinder lock mechanisms. Thank you so much! Michael |
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21st June 2009, 04:31 PM
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Hi Spiridonov,
Do you happen to have good photos of these guns at the Hermitage Museum? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7637 Regards, Michael |
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21st June 2009, 07:24 PM
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Thank you so much for posting these Spiridonov! These photos of these weapons are fantastic and I cannot say how much it means to have the holdings of these museums shared here.
Michael has for some time presided over fantastic contributions with many photos of his amazing collection and many important items of pertinant artwork, and to have you adding these key Russian museums, the scope of the forum has reached yet another dimension. These wonderful posts, along with the many fantastic contributions of the many other members here sharing their collections and acquisitions present the great opportunities for us all to learn, as always, together. All the very best, Jim |
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22nd June 2009, 04:05 PM
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Hi Spriridonov,
I think Jim put it best for all of us!  For my reply to your query about earliest snap tinder locks please see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10278 Best, Michael |
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23rd June 2009, 11:49 AM
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23rd June 2009, 11:59 AM
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very-very small russian barrels from museum of artyllery:
2: end of 14-begin of 15. calibre 12.5 mm. total length 190 mm. weight 0.6 kg 3: from 1475 to 1500. calibre 12.5 mm. total length 215 mm. weight 0.5 kg |
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23rd June 2009, 09:34 PM
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Russian button-locks (snapping matchlocks)
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26th June 2009, 04:58 PM
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I appreciate those images very much, Spiridonov, thank you!
I should date all these items to ca. 1530. Actually all these snap mechanisms were meant for a small piece of tinder (a sort of fungus growing on trees), not match. You can tell by the tiny jaws of their serpentines that they could never have received a piece of match which used to be as thick as a finger. The thick matchcord - often shown wound around the arm - was then only used to light the pieces of tinder each of which was used for only one single shot.Do you have more of these? We are eager to see them! Regards, Michael |
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26th June 2009, 10:23 PM
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What is your main interes? there are breech-loading artillery of 15 centure in museum. breech-loading arquebuse. Museum of artillery have a very big collection
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