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Old 15th June 2009, 12:01 AM   #1
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Well, it would be a natural evolution if, for the purpose of signaling, the artillery cannon was replaced by the specific signal mortar at a later stage ... XVII-XVIII century ?
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Old 15th June 2009, 12:07 AM   #2
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Hi Nando,

I don't see why you inherently preclude its use as a military weapon. Soldiers sometimes even made diagonal holes in the ground, filled them with BP and a stone, or other projectile, and fired them in large numbers in the general direction of the enemy...

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Well, it would be a natural evolution if, for the purpose of signaling, the artillery cannon was replaced by the specific signal mortar at a later stage ... XVII-XVIII century ?
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Old 15th June 2009, 01:51 PM   #3
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Hi Fernando,

I, just like you, should date this barrel to roughly the 18th century. As most noise makers were made of wrought iron I think Manolo may be right and it may have been originally part of a mortar fixed to a heavy base plate and designed to fire in a 45 degree angle or so.

Anyway, I like it very much!

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Thank you Michael

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... I, just like you, should date this barrel to roughly the 18th century. As most noise makers were made of wrought iron I think Manolo may be right and it may have been originally part of a mortar fixed to a heavy base plate and designed to fire in a 45 degree angle or so.
Anyway, I like it very much! ...
I like that you like it; it's a good sign .
I will then register it in my collection directory as a XVII-XVIII century item ... to be nice to myself .

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Old 29th June 2009, 03:25 PM   #5
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Hi Fernando,

Please see Cornelis' latest post:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ed=1#post85809

for these and many more!

Thanks again, Cornelis!

I do not trust the stocks and some compositions though, to me they seem to be modern restorations.

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Thanks for the hint, Michael.
I'll meet you there.
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Old 15th June 2009, 04:59 PM   #7
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Hi Nando,

I don't see why you inherently preclude its use as a military weapon...
No, i don't ; discoverers and military, were a symbiosis... right?
It is to deprehend that, signaling with actual cannons was an inadequate procedure; soon the need for something more practical gave place to these portable noise makers.


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...Soldiers sometimes even made diagonal holes in the ground, filled them with BP and a stone, or other projectile, and fired them in large numbers in the general direction of the enemy...
Fantastic; any method is good for making war .

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