Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Keris Warung Kopi
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10th June 2009, 03:42 AM   #1
ferrylaki
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Ferry, this keris is ideal for a very extended discussion on tangguh, but regretably such a discussion is not really possible from photographs.

In the photos I can see a keris that displays features of Tuban-Mataram, and also of Tuban- Pajajaran.

In the hand I would be prepared to declare for one or the other, but I will not do that from photographs.
I realize that we can't make a further discussion on tangguh. I'm trully understand and honor your idea of discussing about tangguh. by these pictures , I try to get some estimations about the dhapur style, the iron material from the colour of the iron, the pamor material ( whether it too bright, too white, too pure for a nikel pamor, or it already appropiate for its era), the dimention-size/lenght/wide, condong leleh, etc.
tuban-mataram and tuban-pajajaran . I prefer to say that we are not making a conclution aboot its tangguh. but we are trying to determine its style only.
the keris has a tuban style for sure. Let's see again the pictures of tuban style kerises with the same pamor
Attached Images
  
ferrylaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2009, 06:53 AM   #2
ganjawulung
Member
 
ganjawulung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: J a k a r t a
Posts: 991
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrylaki
...I prefer to say that we are not making a conclution aboot its tangguh. but we are trying to determine its style only.
Dear Ferry,
Tuban style is probably the safest estimation, I agree too. But from which tangguh? That's still questionable.

Your post #8, are the photos of the same blade? The color of the hilt is a bit different. And also the type of hilt, IMHO. Your choice of warangkas, seem to 'move' to Yogya now Ferry?

GANJAWULUNG
ganjawulung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th June 2009, 02:40 AM   #3
ferrylaki
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ganjawulung
Dear Ferry,
Tuban style is probably the safest estimation, I agree too. But from which tangguh? That's still questionable.

Your post #8, are the photos of the same blade? The color of the hilt is a bit different. And also the type of hilt, IMHO. Your choice of warangkas, seem to 'move' to Yogya now Ferry?

GANJAWULUNG
in the last pictures I posted about 2 different kerises. the right keris with naradakandha hilt is my old collection, and the left one is my newest collection ( you can see the detail pictures above). both of them has the same pamor pattern and the same tuban style. My choice of warangkas has not 'move' to jogja yet. these are a trully fortunate coinsident that I found those kerises in jogja gayaman.

Last edited by ferrylaki; 11th June 2009 at 02:51 AM.
ferrylaki is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.