snake or frigate bird

David · 14th May 2009, 09:19 PM

Tim, are you sure the eyes are plastic? Looks like some sort of stone to me.

This type of staff could have been made anywhere. Snake have cultural significance all over the world. I see no specific cultural indicators here. But i do like the staff.

Tim Simmons · 15th May 2009, 04:11 PM

The eyes are plastic/nylon material, to be sure I tested with a hot pin.

fern, the purple part is a piece of copper pipe. If you look very carefully you can see some thought and effort has gone into stretching and fettling the pipe to fit the wood. It is this that makes me feel that it may not be a tourist thing. Also it does actually feel good to hold. I have had Congo knives with plastic materials attached as decoration. I think I will google Liana.

Tim Simmons · 15th May 2009, 04:51 PM

Looks like some type of Liana to me now. That means it could come from many places even India but reminds me of African work?

http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/jan102009/58.pdf

fearn · 15th May 2009, 07:47 PM

Ah, thanks Tim. I see the copper now. Weird that I saw that as wood first.

Another interesting thing is the lack of corrosion on the copper.

This looks like the kind of stick I'd make for fun out of an interesting piece of wood, with a pipe ferrule and a carved head. I agree, it's probably not a tourist item.

Best,

F

14th May 2009, 09:19 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Tim, are you sure the eyes are plastic? Looks like some sort of stone to me. This type of staff could have been made anywhere. Snake have cultural significance all over the world. I see no specific cultural indicators here. But i do like the staff.

15th May 2009, 04:11 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	The eyes are plastic/nylon material, to be sure I tested with a hot pin. fern, the purple part is a piece of copper pipe. If you look very carefully you can see some thought and effort has gone into stretching and fettling the pipe to fit the wood. It is this that makes me feel that it may not be a tourist thing. Also it does actually feel good to hold. I have had Congo knives with plastic materials attached as decoration. I think I will google Liana.

15th May 2009, 04:51 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Looks like some type of Liana to me now. That means it could come from many places even India but reminds me of African work? http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/jan102009/58.pdf

15th May 2009, 07:47 PM	#4
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Ah, thanks Tim. I see the copper now. Weird that I saw that as wood first. Another interesting thing is the lack of corrosion on the copper. This looks like the kind of stick I'd make for fun out of an interesting piece of wood, with a pipe ferrule and a carved head. I agree, it's probably not a tourist item. Best, F