Fledgling keris collector first purchases

Mefidk · 10th May 2009, 08:17 AM

Thank you very much for the information. I'm glad the swords were not swapped for junk

The kingfisher hilt was the reason I bought the second piece. I was told later by another collector that the fellow I bought it from once had a large collection of these but after retirement he has sold them all and I got the last one. No sheath I'm afraid. I've attached a few more pictures of this one.

The third piece I was told was from Bali and about 300 years old (the bone hilt certainly gives the impression of some serious age). As far as I can find out the figure is a representation of agressive Shiva Bhairava sitting in Rajalilisana position.
Is it possible to determine whether the hilt and blade have the same origins, and if so figure out what type of sheath and mendak I would need to find to complete the piece? I can see some new ones for sale on the web so I guess they can also make replacement parts.

Alam Shah · 10th May 2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mefidk

The kingfisher hilt was the reason I bought the second piece.

I thought so, too.

It's a Tajong form, more info (( here )). The blade tang seems to have been shortened. The naga form is Pattanese, crude and is probably not too old.

Henk · 10th May 2009, 10:17 AM

The third piece is not Bali. The hilt is from North Java, Cirebon imho. The blade is gonjo iras indeed.

Alam Shah · 10th May 2009, 11:30 AM

Hi Chris,

Can we have a few pics of the 3rd hilt, from the front and from the other side.. and a full pic of the blade, please.

Sajen · 10th May 2009, 11:36 AM

Hello Chris,

in my first look I haven't seen the very nice and old Tajong hilt because I don't skroll the picture to the right.

sajen

Mefidk · 10th May 2009, 01:39 PM

Hi Alam Shah

here are a few more pictures of the third piece for you.

Thanks for the Tajong link. Looking at this suggests that mine is quite old, which I had not expected

Chris

Rick · 10th May 2009, 02:58 PM

A Kebo with ganja iras; nice blade . IMHO

10th May 2009, 08:17 AM	#1
Mefidk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 157	Thank you very much for the information. I'm glad the swords were not swapped for junk The kingfisher hilt was the reason I bought the second piece. I was told later by another collector that the fellow I bought it from once had a large collection of these but after retirement he has sold them all and I got the last one. No sheath I'm afraid. I've attached a few more pictures of this one. The third piece I was told was from Bali and about 300 years old (the bone hilt certainly gives the impression of some serious age). As far as I can find out the figure is a representation of agressive Shiva Bhairava sitting in Rajalilisana position. Is it possible to determine whether the hilt and blade have the same origins, and if so figure out what type of sheath and mendak I would need to find to complete the piece? I can see some new ones for sale on the web so I guess they can also make replacement parts. Attached Images

10th May 2009, 01:39 PM	#6
Mefidk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 157	Hi Alam Shah here are a few more pictures of the third piece for you. Thanks for the Tajong link. Looking at this suggests that mine is quite old, which I had not expected Chris Attached Images

10th May 2009, 10:17 AM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	The third piece is not Bali. The hilt is from North Java, Cirebon imho. The blade is gonjo iras indeed.

10th May 2009, 11:30 AM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Chris, Can we have a few pics of the 3rd hilt, from the front and from the other side.. and a full pic of the blade, please.

10th May 2009, 11:36 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,337	Hello Chris, in my first look I haven't seen the very nice and old Tajong hilt because I don't skroll the picture to the right. sajen

10th May 2009, 02:58 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	A Kebo with ganja iras; nice blade . IMHO