Arabian beauty 1 translation?

M.carter · 25th April 2005, 01:58 PM

The inscription between the two hangers reads "Jum'a Saleem Al-Shinyoora". Probably the owners name.

You can also see the Ottoman Crescent and Star sign on the hook pommel.

M.carter · 25th April 2005, 02:01 PM

Eftihis, if you can provide us with a closer, higher resolution pic of the indicated part of the inscription below, maybe I can read the date of this sword and when it was made.

Mark · 25th April 2005, 02:44 PM

I finally may have something to contribute to a shamshir discussion! I believe that the rose, which is being held or reached for by the hand, is a Sufic (Sufitic? Of the Sufi) symbol frequently appearing in Sufi poetry. I believe it represents nostalgia, longing for happiness/perfection/purity. Something like that.

M.carter · 25th April 2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Bowditch

I finally may have something to contribute to a shamshir discussion! I believe that the rose, which is being held or reached for by the hand, is a Sufic (Sufitic? Of the Sufi) symbol frequently appearing in Sufi poetry. I believe it represents nostalgia, longing for happiness/perfection/purity. Something like that.

Very Probable Mark, as there is a large Suffi population in Syria and that region.

Andrew · 25th April 2005, 06:34 PM

Many thanks for the translation, Mark (Carter).

M.carter · 25th April 2005, 07:36 PM

You're always welcome Andrew

eftihis · 25th April 2005, 09:58 PM

Thank you all very much for the contribution.
I will be near the sword in 1-2 days and send a better photo. The date though looks like 1151, doesnt it? Althought this seems quite an early date.

25th April 2005, 02:01 PM	#2
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25th April 2005, 01:58 PM	#1
M.carter Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 176	The inscription between the two hangers reads "Jum'a Saleem Al-Shinyoora". Probably the owners name. You can also see the Ottoman Crescent and Star sign on the hook pommel.

25th April 2005, 02:44 PM	#3
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I finally may have something to contribute to a shamshir discussion! I believe that the rose, which is being held or reached for by the hand, is a Sufic (Sufitic? Of the Sufi) symbol frequently appearing in Sufi poetry. I believe it represents nostalgia, longing for happiness/perfection/purity. Something like that.

25th April 2005, 06:34 PM	#5
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Many thanks for the translation, Mark (Carter).

25th April 2005, 07:36 PM	#6
M.carter Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 176	You're always welcome Andrew

25th April 2005, 09:58 PM	#7
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Thank you all very much for the contribution. I will be near the sword in 1-2 days and send a better photo. The date though looks like 1151, doesnt it? Althought this seems quite an early date.