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22nd March 2009, 05:57 AM
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Somebody correct me here, because to me this plainly looks like a mandau or other parang blade, 19th century. Am I crazy?
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22nd March 2009, 09:13 AM
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I will place some better pictures and then you all can shoot at it :-) Re: Mandau If you refering to the swords from Borneo Mandau(langgi tinggan,pasir) , baieng, duku, malab, malat and Parang Ilang. the blades look similar but they all have one main (different) characteristic: one side is ball shaped and the other side hollow shaped. also they don't have ricasso's of this type. maybe I follow the total wrong track so Im looking forward to your replies/evidence posted, on the the pictures. best regards from Holland Last edited by cornelistromp; 22nd March 2009 at 03:29 PM. |
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23rd March 2009, 06:42 PM
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Hi Cornelis,
Is there any evidence of how the tang was affixed to a hilt e.g. peened, 'glued' etc. My Regards, Norman. |
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23rd March 2009, 08:18 PM
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no unfortunately it is not possible to tell. but the tang goes from 7mm to 4mm thickness. best regards |
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24th March 2009, 09:26 PM
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Hi Cornelis,
There are some odd things that I don't quite understand about this blade, although having said that I am far from qualified regarding blade technology. The blade to my mind appears to have been cast rather than forged and I'm sure I can see some regular tool marks that seem more modern. I hope that we can find some answers and to that end may I suggest you put the photo of the Arabic script on the Ethnographic Forum asking for a translation, this may go some way to resolving the mystery. My Regards, Norman. |
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25th March 2009, 05:26 AM
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I think the cast appearance you are seeing is a result of firescale. Makes me think this blade was in a fire. ---or was just never finished much after heat treat
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25th March 2009, 08:05 AM
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thanks for your replies,
I don't think the blade has been cast , you can see hammertraces at the tang. my opinion is also that this balde has been in a fire, but should then the small gold inlays ,at the beginning and top of the higher fuller, not have been melted away? I hope the translation can help out. Best regards |
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