unknown naski inscripted malchus blade?

Gavin Nugent · 22nd March 2009, 03:11 AM

Hi guys,

Cornelis could you please provide a brighter image of the business end of the blade, I have a couple of thoughts I'd like to throw around after more images could be provided.

thanks

Gav

G. McCormack · 22nd March 2009, 05:57 AM

Somebody correct me here, because to me this plainly looks like a mandau or other parang blade, 19th century. Am I crazy?

cornelistromp · 22nd March 2009, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G. McCormack

Somebody correct me here, because to me this plainly looks like a mandau or other parang blade, 19th century. Am I crazy?

Dear sir,

I will place some better pictures and then you all can shoot at it :-)

Re: Mandau
If you refering to the swords from Borneo Mandau(langgi tinggan,pasir) , baieng, duku, malab, malat and Parang Ilang.
the blades look similar but they all have one main (different) characteristic: one side is ball shaped and the other side hollow shaped. also they don't have ricasso's of this type.

maybe I follow the total wrong track so Im looking forward to your replies/evidence posted, on the the pictures.

best regards from Holland

Norman McCormick · 23rd March 2009, 06:42 PM

Hi Cornelis,
Is there any evidence of how the tang was affixed to a hilt e.g. peened, 'glued' etc.
My Regards,
Norman.

cornelistromp · 23rd March 2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Cornelis,
Is there any evidence of how the tang was affixed to a hilt e.g. peened, 'glued' etc.
My Regards,
Norman.

HI Norman,

no unfortunately it is not possible to tell.
but the tang goes from 7mm to 4mm thickness.

best regards

Norman McCormick · 24th March 2009, 09:26 PM

Hi Cornelis,
There are some odd things that I don't quite understand about this blade, although having said that I am far from qualified regarding blade technology. The blade to my mind appears to have been cast rather than forged and I'm sure I can see some regular tool marks that seem more modern. I hope that we can find some answers and to that end may I suggest you put the photo of the Arabic script on the Ethnographic Forum asking for a translation, this may go some way to resolving the mystery.
My Regards,
Norman.

G. McCormack · 25th March 2009, 05:26 AM

I think the cast appearance you are seeing is a result of firescale. Makes me think this blade was in a fire. ---or was just never finished much after heat treat

22nd March 2009, 03:11 AM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Another image please Hi guys, Cornelis could you please provide a brighter image of the business end of the blade, I have a couple of thoughts I'd like to throw around after more images could be provided. thanks Gav

22nd March 2009, 05:57 AM	#2
G. McCormack Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 131	Somebody correct me here, because to me this plainly looks like a mandau or other parang blade, 19th century. Am I crazy?

23rd March 2009, 06:42 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi Cornelis, Is there any evidence of how the tang was affixed to a hilt e.g. peened, 'glued' etc. My Regards, Norman.

24th March 2009, 09:26 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi Cornelis, There are some odd things that I don't quite understand about this blade, although having said that I am far from qualified regarding blade technology. The blade to my mind appears to have been cast rather than forged and I'm sure I can see some regular tool marks that seem more modern. I hope that we can find some answers and to that end may I suggest you put the photo of the Arabic script on the Ethnographic Forum asking for a translation, this may go some way to resolving the mystery. My Regards, Norman.

25th March 2009, 05:26 AM	#7
G. McCormack Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 131	I think the cast appearance you are seeing is a result of firescale. Makes me think this blade was in a fire. ---or was just never finished much after heat treat