Cinderella & Dewi Sri

[Marcokeris]

[QUOTE=A. G. Maisey]
But answer me one question:- have you ever seen this material used previously for the production of a keris hilt?

Of course not. I saw magma from vulcano becames a keris hit..or terracotta ...or white stone...or amber turn into a hit. But never this kind of (Venice?) glass.
Honestly i dont like these glass hits but, of course, is my personal taste.
About Zimmerman ...i don't know this poet ...or musician. But I know very well an astonishing australian musician: Paul Schutze that, together some others modern american musicians (Cage, Newby, Nerel) and an old european musician (Debussy), carried on the "indonesian gamelan music" in the haven.

[David]

[QUOTE=Marcokeris]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

About Zimmerman ...i don't know this poet ...or musician.

Sure you do Marco, his stage name is Bob Dylan.
And Alan, i have a great deal of respect for Bob and think he has certainly earned his place in musical history, but i still think just about anyone who has covered his material has sung it better. But we digress, don't we.

[A. G. Maisey]

Yes.

Exactly.

And that is what makes something of this nature so desireable.

Not to put onto any keris, but to add diversity to a collection of keris hilts.A similar motive to that which propelled PBX.

You don't know Bobby Zimmerman? How about Bob Dylan?

Same bloke.

Paul Schutze I know. He's a very good axeman (the cutting kind, not the musical kind). I was unaware that he also had musical talents until I read your post, Marco --- or maybe my Paul and your Paul are different people. Anyway, I accessed some of your Paul's work from google. Not quite my speed I'm afraid.

When I first discovered gamelan I found it captivating. Bought recordings, listened to a lot of it, even tried re-scoring some western pieces in slendro and pelog. It reckon it took me about twenty years to get to understand gamelan, and when I did, I decided that it was not really my sort of thing.There is no doubt that gamelan is very, very clever, and it takes very, very talented musicians to play it well. There's a segment on Attenborough's "Tribal Eye" that shows just how incredibly clever the best gamelan musicians can be.Now, 50 odd years after discovering gamelan, I have finally decided that it is not quite my thing.

I know that some amongst those who read this will want to send me to the bathroom to wash my mouth out with soap after I say this, but I really don't like gamelan music much. Some of the Bali gamelan I can tolerate. Most Javanese gamelan I don't like much at all. I like langgam Jawa, and I like kroncong, but not gamelan. Guess I'm just a barbarian.

[A. G. Maisey]

Yeah David, so does my wife. But its the timbre and tonal quality of the voice that is lacking---not the musicianship.

And to once again display my barbaric roots, even though I can level valid musical criticism at Bob's listenability, I personally like his delivery. He gets more airtime in my car than any other three artists combined.

Further, Joan Baez. Brilliant voice. Wonderful singer. Love her!!!

But compare Joan's Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts to Bob's.

Not in the same street.

Bob gives us a full Western Movie starring---maybe---Clint Eastwood.

Joan gives us wishy-washy niceness.

Horses for courses.

Dylan does Dylan best.

Same as Leonard Cohen. Nobody, but nobody matches Cohen in the presentation of his own work.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yeah David, so does my wife. But its the timbre and tonal quality of the voice that is lacking---not the musicianship.

And to once again display my barbaric roots, even though I can level valid musical criticism at Bob's listenability, I personally like his delivery. He gets more airtime in my car than any other three artists combined.

Further, Joan Baez. Brilliant voice. Wonderful singer. Love her!!!

But compare Joan's Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts to Bob's.

Not in the same street.

Bob gives us a full Western Movie starring---maybe---Clint Eastwood.

Joan gives us wishy-washy niceness.

Horses for courses.

Dylan does Dylan best.

Same as Leonard Cohen. Nobody, but nobody matches Cohen in the presentation of his own work.

I saw him get booed at the Newport Folk Festival when he went electric .
IMO he's the poet for our times .

His songs; his voice, our story .

[A. G. Maisey]

Yeah, I remember that. Didn't see it, but it was well documented.

In all honesty, his first efforts with electricity were pretty rough. Didn't like what he was doing much at that time. But it all settled down later.

Way back then, "electricity" was a dirty word with a lot of people.That was a long time before the art of the technician rose to the point where they can take somebody singing out of tune and out of time, and manufacture a Top Twenty hit from the material.

[Marcokeris]

[QUOTE=A. G. Maisey]Yes.

.... my Paul and your Paul are different people.

[A. G. Maisey]

Yeah, I guessed they might be.