Oriental firearms/muskets

Atlantia · 9th March 2009, 02:33 AM

Bloody hell Ward!
If you're not going to 'big up' your amazing collection then I'll have to!

Ward has a completely jaw-dropping collection of ethnic guns Linky

Peter! Great Gun,
Not a type I'm familiar with, very nice to see.

pbleed · 10th March 2009, 02:56 AM

Ward,
Boy, I can't be sure, but the image you posted looks very much (!) like the gun I owned and mentioned in my earlier post. It had a couple of aluminum barrel bands in front of a copper band that held the lock in place. I owned that gun for several years - enough in fact that I do not think it was a Vietnam bring back. It was the loss of that gun that moved me to acquire the piece I showed. Lesson: there are more reasons to acquire interesting items than there are for getting rid of them!
Thanks for sharing.
Peter

ward · 10th March 2009, 03:40 AM

Yes I have about 10 of this type the later use aluminum barrell bands the earlier ones use copper and silver. Vietnam is the rough area but these areas of origin are vague they were also used in surrounding areas. If I get time I will take pic of some more. here is a link of one I posted a few years back
montenyard rifle

trenchwarfare · 13th March 2009, 11:56 PM

Here are my two "monkey" guns. Both came out of S.E. Asia, via CIA spooks, so no telling from what country.

Click the link, and scroll down. If it was already stated, I missed it... What is the name of these guns? I found reference to a Chinese name, but no S.E. Asia names. M.P.http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=68848

Jim McDougall · 14th March 2009, 01:22 PM

Hi Trench,
Just curious...what did the 'monkey gun' term come from? I always think the history behind a lot of these colloquial terms is fascinating, and it seems like a collection of them would make a great glossary here.

Best regards,
Jim

KuKulzA28 · 14th March 2009, 02:42 PM

All I know is that they used to call my people monkeys, Chinamen, gooks, chinks, etc...?

trenchwarfare · 16th March 2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Hi Trench,
Just curious...what did the 'monkey gun' term come from? I always think the history behind a lot of these colloquial terms is fascinating, and it seems like a collection of them would make a great glossary here.

Best regards,
Jim

Hello Jim. I kinda came up with it on my own. No racial slur intended. Seemed logical, since these guns were most likely used to hunt monkeys, and other indigenous critters. I call all North African, and Middle Eastern guns, "camel guns"!

9th March 2009, 02:33 AM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Bloody hell Ward! If you're not going to 'big up' your amazing collection then I'll have to! Ward has a completely jaw-dropping collection of ethnic guns Linky Peter! Great Gun, Not a type I'm familiar with, very nice to see. Last edited by Atlantia; 9th March 2009 at 02:44 AM.

10th March 2009, 02:56 AM	#2
pbleed Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 89	the one that got away Ward, Boy, I can't be sure, but the image you posted looks very much (!) like the gun I owned and mentioned in my earlier post. It had a couple of aluminum barrel bands in front of a copper band that held the lock in place. I owned that gun for several years - enough in fact that I do not think it was a Vietnam bring back. It was the loss of that gun that moved me to acquire the piece I showed. Lesson: there are more reasons to acquire interesting items than there are for getting rid of them! Thanks for sharing. Peter

10th March 2009, 03:40 AM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Yes I have about 10 of this type the later use aluminum barrell bands the earlier ones use copper and silver. Vietnam is the rough area but these areas of origin are vague they were also used in surrounding areas. If I get time I will take pic of some more. here is a link of one I posted a few years back montenyard rifle

13th March 2009, 11:56 PM	#4
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Here are my two "monkey" guns. Both came out of S.E. Asia, via CIA spooks, so no telling from what country. Click the link, and scroll down. If it was already stated, I missed it... What is the name of these guns? I found reference to a Chinese name, but no S.E. Asia names. M.P.http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=68848

14th March 2009, 01:22 PM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,668	Hi Trench, Just curious...what did the 'monkey gun' term come from? I always think the history behind a lot of these colloquial terms is fascinating, and it seems like a collection of them would make a great glossary here. Best regards, Jim

14th March 2009, 02:42 PM	#6
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	All I know is that they used to call my people monkeys, Chinamen, gooks, chinks, etc...?