The Vasa Museum Stockholm Revisited

Matchlock · 8th March 2009, 06:39 PM

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Matchlock · 8th March 2009, 07:22 PM

Once again the matchlock musket and wheel-lock pistols on display at the Vasa Museum, 1640's-50's, in comparison with samples of the 1620's-30 from the Army Museum Stockholm.

While, amongst other details, the older muskets have broad fishtail butt stocks, the one on display at the Vasa Museum shows the more advanced rounded belly butt of the 1640's. After ca. 1650, the rounded form took over and the pronounced sides of the earlier years began to vanish.
From ca. 1670 onward, the "modern" musket butt stock had reached its final form still featured on 21st century British shotguns.

The wheel-lock pistols of ca. 1625-30 were shorter than those of the the late 1640`s-50's.

Michael

Matchlock · 8th March 2009, 07:29 PM

Matchlock muskets, ca. 1620-50, the second from top dated 1626, the fourth ca. 1650, a flintlock musket of ca. 1670 and the latest form of a matchlock, ca. 1700-20 - all at the Royal Army Museum Stockholm.

Please not the significant evolution of the butt stocks.

Michael

M ELEY · 8th March 2009, 11:34 PM

Michael-
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is a thread after my own heart. These days, I am completely obsessed with anything maritime/pirate/privateer, so it was a very refreshing moment to see this thread. I can't believe all of the pics you have so generously posted here for us! I have seen far less pics on most web sites and in my books! What an incredible wreck and salvage this was. Can't wait to someday see it in person. Especially the stern, with all its carved figures. The one pic showing the colored panel and how it must have looked like is a real eye-opener. So bright and (dare I say it) gaudy. You get used to seeing the drab colors of figure-heads and ocean salvage many centuries later and assume that the wood was left unpainted, but here we see the truth. It was like when they recently restored the Sistine Chapel's ceiling and everyone gasped at the real colors (bright and gaudy, again!

) revealed. Those quoits are like those you posted on that old thread. What can I say? AWSOME!

celtan · 8th March 2009, 11:38 PM

Thanks Michael,

Your posts are invariably worth reading!

Best

Manuel

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

Matchlock muskets, ca. 1620-50, the second from top dated 1626, the fourth ca. 1650, a flintlock musket of ca. 1670 and the latest form of a matchlock, ca. 1700-20 - all at the Royal Army Museum Stockholm.

Please not the significant evolution of the butt stocks.

Michael

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Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Differences Between Matchlocks and Wheel-Locks of ca. 1625 and the 1640's Once again the matchlock musket and wheel-lock pistols on display at the Vasa Museum, 1640's-50's, in comparison with samples of the 1620's-30 from the Army Museum Stockholm. While, amongst other details, the older muskets have broad fishtail butt stocks, the one on display at the Vasa Museum shows the more advanced rounded belly butt of the 1640's. After ca. 1650, the rounded form took over and the pronounced sides of the earlier years began to vanish. From ca. 1670 onward, the "modern" musket butt stock had reached its final form still featured on 21st century British shotguns. The wheel-lock pistols of ca. 1625-30 were shorter than those of the the late 1640`s-50's. Michael Attached Images

8th March 2009, 07:29 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Matchlock muskets, ca. 1620-50, the second from top dated 1626, the fourth ca. 1650, a flintlock musket of ca. 1670 and the latest form of a matchlock, ca. 1700-20 - all at the Royal Army Museum Stockholm. Please not the significant evolution of the butt stocks. Michael Attached Images

8th March 2009, 11:34 PM	#7
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,184	Michael- Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is a thread after my own heart. These days, I am completely obsessed with anything maritime/pirate/privateer, so it was a very refreshing moment to see this thread. I can't believe all of the pics you have so generously posted here for us! I have seen far less pics on most web sites and in my books! What an incredible wreck and salvage this was. Can't wait to someday see it in person. Especially the stern, with all its carved figures. The one pic showing the colored panel and how it must have looked like is a real eye-opener. So bright and (dare I say it) gaudy. You get used to seeing the drab colors of figure-heads and ocean salvage many centuries later and assume that the wood was left unpainted, but here we see the truth. It was like when they recently restored the Sistine Chapel's ceiling and everyone gasped at the real colors (bright and gaudy, again! ) revealed. Those quoits are like those you posted on that old thread. What can I say? AWSOME!