Oriental firearms/muskets

Anandalal N. · 8th March 2009, 04:51 AM

Dear Peter,

Congratulations on this interestng find. Is it possible to see an image with the pan cover closed. It must take a large flint to reach the distance from the cock to the frizzen.

Best.

LPCA · 8th March 2009, 05:48 AM

Bonjour, Peter.
Good you could join pics at your post.
If you allow me, just 2 points:

1 - try to respect the max length of 30cm (high is not important if you respect the max size of an image on this forum) with a suffisant resolution of 72 pix/inch. Objective is to stay in the limits of size of the text.

2 - For a presentation of a firearm (they are most of the time quite long), the best is:
¤ 1 general view
¤ 1 image of the stock if specific
¤ 1 image of the lock
¤ 1 image of the end of the barrel with the mouth.
¤ image of the writings (if any) or of specific details if interesting (capucinces, trigger, ....).

Have a glance to http://blade.japet.com/B-mok-coraux.htm
It's just a guideline of course, but i vave been in the obligation to fix rules of presentation of my studies (and the blades have the same presentation.

You can also introduce several images joined to the same post.
I know you will succeed....

Friendly.
Louis-Pierre

ward · 9th March 2009, 12:24 AM

A lot of these rifles were bought back from vietnam by U.S. troops. They use a small flint that is held in by a gum tar.

Atlantia · 9th March 2009, 01:33 AM

Bloody hell Ward!
If you're not going to 'big up' your amazing collection then I'll have to!

Ward has a completely jaw-dropping collection of ethnic guns Linky

Peter! Great Gun,
Not a type I'm familiar with, very nice to see.

pbleed · 10th March 2009, 01:56 AM

Ward,
Boy, I can't be sure, but the image you posted looks very much (!) like the gun I owned and mentioned in my earlier post. It had a couple of aluminum barrel bands in front of a copper band that held the lock in place. I owned that gun for several years - enough in fact that I do not think it was a Vietnam bring back. It was the loss of that gun that moved me to acquire the piece I showed. Lesson: there are more reasons to acquire interesting items than there are for getting rid of them!
Thanks for sharing.
Peter

ward · 10th March 2009, 02:40 AM

Yes I have about 10 of this type the later use aluminum barrell bands the earlier ones use copper and silver. Vietnam is the rough area but these areas of origin are vague they were also used in surrounding areas. If I get time I will take pic of some more. here is a link of one I posted a few years back
montenyard rifle

trenchwarfare · 13th March 2009, 10:56 PM

Here are my two "monkey" guns. Both came out of S.E. Asia, via CIA spooks, so no telling from what country.

Click the link, and scroll down. If it was already stated, I missed it... What is the name of these guns? I found reference to a Chinese name, but no S.E. Asia names. M.P.http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=68848

9th March 2009, 12:24 AM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	A lot of these rifles were bought back from vietnam by U.S. troops. They use a small flint that is held in by a gum tar. Attached Images

9th March 2009, 01:33 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Bloody hell Ward! If you're not going to 'big up' your amazing collection then I'll have to! Ward has a completely jaw-dropping collection of ethnic guns Linky Peter! Great Gun, Not a type I'm familiar with, very nice to see. Last edited by Atlantia; 9th March 2009 at 01:44 AM.

10th March 2009, 01:56 AM	#5
pbleed Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 89	the one that got away Ward, Boy, I can't be sure, but the image you posted looks very much (!) like the gun I owned and mentioned in my earlier post. It had a couple of aluminum barrel bands in front of a copper band that held the lock in place. I owned that gun for several years - enough in fact that I do not think it was a Vietnam bring back. It was the loss of that gun that moved me to acquire the piece I showed. Lesson: there are more reasons to acquire interesting items than there are for getting rid of them! Thanks for sharing. Peter

8th March 2009, 04:51 AM	#1
Anandalal N. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 84	Dear Peter, Congratulations on this interestng find. Is it possible to see an image with the pan cover closed. It must take a large flint to reach the distance from the cock to the frizzen. Best.

8th March 2009, 05:48 AM	#2
LPCA Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toulouse - FRANCE Posts: 83	Bonjour, Peter. Good you could join pics at your post. If you allow me, just 2 points: 1 - try to respect the max length of 30cm (high is not important if you respect the max size of an image on this forum) with a suffisant resolution of 72 pix/inch. Objective is to stay in the limits of size of the text. 2 - For a presentation of a firearm (they are most of the time quite long), the best is: ¤ 1 general view ¤ 1 image of the stock if specific ¤ 1 image of the lock ¤ 1 image of the end of the barrel with the mouth. ¤ image of the writings (if any) or of specific details if interesting (capucinces, trigger, ....). Have a glance to http://blade.japet.com/B-mok-coraux.htm It's just a guideline of course, but i vave been in the obligation to fix rules of presentation of my studies (and the blades have the same presentation. You can also introduce several images joined to the same post. I know you will succeed.... Friendly. Louis-Pierre

10th March 2009, 02:40 AM	#6
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Yes I have about 10 of this type the later use aluminum barrell bands the earlier ones use copper and silver. Vietnam is the rough area but these areas of origin are vague they were also used in surrounding areas. If I get time I will take pic of some more. here is a link of one I posted a few years back montenyard rifle

13th March 2009, 10:56 PM	#7
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Here are my two "monkey" guns. Both came out of S.E. Asia, via CIA spooks, so no telling from what country. Click the link, and scroll down. If it was already stated, I missed it... What is the name of these guns? I found reference to a Chinese name, but no S.E. Asia names. M.P.http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=68848