indonesian knife?

Henk · 26th February 2009, 07:26 PM

Hello Ascalon, welcome on the forum.

Willem is quite right. The scabbard is from Sulawesi, and is a Badek scabbard. The hilt is probably from a Sekin and is not original to the scabbard. Take a look when placed in the scabbard, it doesnt fit. The hilt should be inside the scabbard. The hilt doesn't also fit the blade. To much space between the blade and the tang. The blade is Sumatran and looks like a Tumbok lada blade. The blade has a Batu lapak. Mostly the sign of a Sumatra blade. But as Willem said common blade, could be various origins. It is a typical mariage of different parts. But I love the scabbard.

The next one puzzles me. The carving of the hilt and the scabbard gave me the idea of Batak. This knife has age. In the archipello a lot of knives are found wich didn't got a specific name.
A Badek was in my mind, pistol grip and the carving on the scabbard mouth as well as the shape of the blade, but not the rather simple dress we use to see by the Badek. But it could also be a form of Piso or a Rawit. It is Sumatran, I'm rather convinced of that because of the look of the blade.

Ascalon · 26th February 2009, 09:20 PM

Thanks

I better understand why i didn't identify the first knife.

This one is curious too:

and i hope this one is more classic:

Best regards
Emmanuel

Henk · 27th February 2009, 06:03 AM

The first one is a chundrik.

The second one is a mariage as well. I think it is a Badek but the hilt is from a Sumatran pedang.

kai · 27th February 2009, 07:51 PM

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The first one is a chundrik.

Yes, looks like a good and well-preserved Bali blade!

The hilt is not traditional though - I'd guess that the fittings are recent replacements.

Regards,
Kai

26th February 2009, 07:26 PM	#1
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Hello Ascalon, welcome on the forum. Willem is quite right. The scabbard is from Sulawesi, and is a Badek scabbard. The hilt is probably from a Sekin and is not original to the scabbard. Take a look when placed in the scabbard, it doesnt fit. The hilt should be inside the scabbard. The hilt doesn't also fit the blade. To much space between the blade and the tang. The blade is Sumatran and looks like a Tumbok lada blade. The blade has a Batu lapak. Mostly the sign of a Sumatra blade. But as Willem said common blade, could be various origins. It is a typical mariage of different parts. But I love the scabbard. The next one puzzles me. The carving of the hilt and the scabbard gave me the idea of Batak. This knife has age. In the archipello a lot of knives are found wich didn't got a specific name. A Badek was in my mind, pistol grip and the carving on the scabbard mouth as well as the shape of the blade, but not the rather simple dress we use to see by the Badek. But it could also be a form of Piso or a Rawit. It is Sumatran, I'm rather convinced of that because of the look of the blade.

26th February 2009, 09:20 PM	#2
Ascalon Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France Posts: 45	Thanks I better understand why i didn't identify the first knife. This one is curious too: and i hope this one is more classic: Best regards Emmanuel

27th February 2009, 06:03 AM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	The first one is a chundrik. The second one is a mariage as well. I think it is a Badek but the hilt is from a Sumatran pedang.