Interesting Yunnan daarb/ Dha

Nathaniel · 21st February 2009, 05:54 PM

Stuart,

Following your post, I thought I would just post up pictures of some other dha/daarb/dao with Chinese motifs from the HOS & dha research index..fantastic pieces.

Does anyone else have pics along the same lines to share?

ausjulius · 21st February 2009, 06:08 PM

there is a company in china still making these swords.... they have a web site.. they are making weapons from the dai ethnic group

Robert · 21st February 2009, 08:34 PM

Using the pictures at the top of the post and comparing the blade length to scabbard length the blade seems to be about 92% the length of the scabbard.

Robert

fearn · 22nd February 2009, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ausjulius

there is a company in china still making these swords.... they have a web site.. they are making weapons from the dai ethnic group

And that company is...?

Nathaniel · 22nd February 2009, 06:04 AM

I just looked up the Dai people...they are also know as the Thai Lu in Thailand...one sub group is the Thai Yong, "Tai Yong are thus descendants of the Tai Lue. In Thailand, these people are know as Thai Yai (Big Thai) and by the rest of the world as Shan."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingpo

Nathaniel · 22nd February 2009, 06:05 AM

ausjulius, yes, do you know their website?

Gavin Nugent · 22nd February 2009, 08:46 AM

I will ask a gentleman in Hong kong who provided me with many images of this village or one of these small mountain villages in Yunnan on the Burma/China border and also images of their work.
His visits were in the 1980's and they have been making blades for many hundreds of years.
My interest started some time ago when I purchased Bhutanese dagger of nice quality that had Chinese characters on it.
I'll see what I can post for all interested.

Gav

Mark · 22nd February 2009, 10:16 AM

I, too, think this is a "Bama" dha, though the fittings have a Chinese flavor to them. Still, it could very well have come geographically from Yunnan, as ethnic groups straddle the border, and swords seem to migrate even further. I do not think that the tip is re-worked. Though I have never seen one precisely like this, you do get some exotic ones:

The long, curved handle is sort of unusual, too, for that style. Yet another sub-type, or possibly hybrid style. It never ends.

22nd February 2009, 08:46 AM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I have a number of images of this village. I will ask a gentleman in Hong kong who provided me with many images of this village or one of these small mountain villages in Yunnan on the Burma/China border and also images of their work. His visits were in the 1980's and they have been making blades for many hundreds of years. My interest started some time ago when I purchased Bhutanese dagger of nice quality that had Chinese characters on it. I'll see what I can post for all interested. Gav

21st February 2009, 05:54 PM	#1
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Stuart, Following your post, I thought I would just post up pictures of some other dha/daarb/dao with Chinese motifs from the HOS & dha research index..fantastic pieces. Does anyone else have pics along the same lines to share?

21st February 2009, 06:08 PM	#2
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 459	there is a company in china still making these swords.... they have a web site.. they are making weapons from the dai ethnic group

21st February 2009, 08:34 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Using the pictures at the top of the post and comparing the blade length to scabbard length the blade seems to be about 92% the length of the scabbard. Robert

22nd February 2009, 06:04 AM	#5
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	I just looked up the Dai people...they are also know as the Thai Lu in Thailand...one sub group is the Thai Yong, "Tai Yong are thus descendants of the Tai Lue. In Thailand, these people are know as Thai Yai (Big Thai) and by the rest of the world as Shan." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingpo

22nd February 2009, 06:05 AM	#6
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	ausjulius, yes, do you know their website?

22nd February 2009, 10:16 AM	#8
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	I, too, think this is a "Bama" dha, though the fittings have a Chinese flavor to them. Still, it could very well have come geographically from Yunnan, as ethnic groups straddle the border, and swords seem to migrate even further. I do not think that the tip is re-worked. Though I have never seen one precisely like this, you do get some exotic ones: The long, curved handle is sort of unusual, too, for that style. Yet another sub-type, or possibly hybrid style. It never ends.