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21st February 2009, 04:44 PM
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From a Resurrection Altar scene dated 1519, painted by Jörg Ratgeb, who was a Landsknecht leader himself and was executed by being torn apart by four horses in Pforzheim in 1526.
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22nd February 2009, 05:37 PM
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Two Fine Katzbalgers and a Hand-and-a-Half Sword
All in the German Historic Museum (DHM) Berlin.
The scans are taken from old German Democratic Republic photos. Michael |
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22nd February 2009, 05:39 PM
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One more detail.
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25th February 2009, 09:42 PM
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A Landsknecht with his Katzbalger and a harquebusier with powder horn and what seems to be a tiller stocked bronze barrel gun.
Details from the Resurrection scene on the so called Herscheider Altar Piece, early 16th century, now preserved at the Museum of Burg (castle) Altena, Westphalia. Michael |
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25th February 2009, 10:51 PM
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Very interesting pics, they show the diversity of the katzbalger. I'm interested in particular with (the rather unusual) curved versions and the longer, two-handed katzbalger. Here are pics of such, taken at the Hussar Museum in Eger, Hungary, and a pic of a Hungarian broad sword, fitted with what might be a katzbalger's blade.
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26th February 2009, 03:09 AM
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http://histvarld.historiska.se/histv...d/IMG_2948.jpg Summing up the information in the text, it's believed to be from ca 1520-30, is of bastard sword size, and marries a grosse messer blade to a katzbalger guard. The original grip was lost, and this one is a guess based upon a similar messer in the Wallace collection. Probably German in origin. It's called kaninholmssabeln ("the Kaninholm saber"),which I guess could mean that it was found at an island known as Kaninholmen. |
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26th February 2009, 02:51 PM
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Kisak, Could you please post pictures of the original piece and let us know where it is preserved? Sorry but I have never relied on replicas as a basis for substantial assessment. In most cases they prove to be nothing but relatively free interpretations of the originals and give way to fantasy, which is far from scholarly treatment. I am not saying that the piece you posted cannot be an exemption to the rule and be quite an exact copy but I'd still like to see images of the "real" thing. Michael |
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