Interesting Yunnan daarb/ Dha

Nathaniel · 21st February 2009, 06:20 AM

kahnjar1,

kahnjar1, Nice Yunnan pieces. Thanks for sharing

You might be right...the person who sent me the pictures called it a Yunnan dha..so that is just what I labeled it :P

I would lean more towards Kachin versus Shan...but in Yunnan province the Kachin are called Jingpo...it's difficult to distinguish because there are several hill tribes that live on across borders and they traded with each other..

For example, I have some modern dha from the Shan state, but the blade style makes you think more Kachin...but actually the Chinese characters name a village in Yunnan....

It would be interesting to hear what others like Mark, Ian, Andrew, have to add...I'm new at this and have allot to learn.

Oh, and I wish I could give you the stats on the blade, etc, but unfortunately this one is not owned by myself or the guy who sent me the photos.

kahnjar1 · 21st February 2009, 06:43 AM

Hi Nathaniel,
I was also thinking Kachin, as the hilt style is found on their Dha also, but hopefully one of the "Learned Three" will chime in on this.
Regards Stuart

Nathaniel · 21st February 2009, 05:54 PM

Stuart,

Following your post, I thought I would just post up pictures of some other dha/daarb/dao with Chinese motifs from the HOS & dha research index..fantastic pieces.

Does anyone else have pics along the same lines to share?

ausjulius · 21st February 2009, 06:08 PM

there is a company in china still making these swords.... they have a web site.. they are making weapons from the dai ethnic group

Robert · 21st February 2009, 08:34 PM

Using the pictures at the top of the post and comparing the blade length to scabbard length the blade seems to be about 92% the length of the scabbard.

Robert

fearn · 22nd February 2009, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ausjulius

there is a company in china still making these swords.... they have a web site.. they are making weapons from the dai ethnic group

And that company is...?

Nathaniel · 22nd February 2009, 06:04 AM

I just looked up the Dai people...they are also know as the Thai Lu in Thailand...one sub group is the Thai Yong, "Tai Yong are thus descendants of the Tai Lue. In Thailand, these people are know as Thai Yai (Big Thai) and by the rest of the world as Shan."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingpo

Nathaniel · 22nd February 2009, 06:05 AM

ausjulius, yes, do you know their website?

21st February 2009, 06:20 AM	#1
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	kahnjar1, kahnjar1, Nice Yunnan pieces. Thanks for sharing You might be right...the person who sent me the pictures called it a Yunnan dha..so that is just what I labeled it :P I would lean more towards Kachin versus Shan...but in Yunnan province the Kachin are called Jingpo...it's difficult to distinguish because there are several hill tribes that live on across borders and they traded with each other.. For example, I have some modern dha from the Shan state, but the blade style makes you think more Kachin...but actually the Chinese characters name a village in Yunnan.... It would be interesting to hear what others like Mark, Ian, Andrew, have to add...I'm new at this and have allot to learn. Oh, and I wish I could give you the stats on the blade, etc, but unfortunately this one is not owned by myself or the guy who sent me the photos.

21st February 2009, 06:43 AM	#2
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	Hi Nathaniel, I was also thinking Kachin, as the hilt style is found on their Dha also, but hopefully one of the "Learned Three" will chime in on this. Regards Stuart

21st February 2009, 05:54 PM	#3
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Stuart, Following your post, I thought I would just post up pictures of some other dha/daarb/dao with Chinese motifs from the HOS & dha research index..fantastic pieces. Does anyone else have pics along the same lines to share?

21st February 2009, 06:08 PM	#4
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 459	there is a company in china still making these swords.... they have a web site.. they are making weapons from the dai ethnic group

21st February 2009, 08:34 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Using the pictures at the top of the post and comparing the blade length to scabbard length the blade seems to be about 92% the length of the scabbard. Robert

22nd February 2009, 06:04 AM	#7
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	I just looked up the Dai people...they are also know as the Thai Lu in Thailand...one sub group is the Thai Yong, "Tai Yong are thus descendants of the Tai Lue. In Thailand, these people are know as Thai Yai (Big Thai) and by the rest of the world as Shan." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingpo

22nd February 2009, 06:05 AM	#8
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	ausjulius, yes, do you know their website?