Appreciation of Palembang hilt

Jussi M. · 20th February 2009, 04:55 AM

Very beautiful.

I wonder how much it takes time to make something like this?

Thanks,

J.

Marcokeris · 20th February 2009, 08:58 AM

Good work!

asomotif · 20th February 2009, 02:16 PM

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wonder how much it takes time to make something like this?

Very nice hilt.
I heard that in Indonesia carvers are using dental drills.
This one is very finely carved.
I assume that this is real manual work.

But can someone confirm this ?

Best regards,
Willem

David · 20th February 2009, 05:14 PM

Willem, i'm not sure how one would ever know for sure unless they knew the carver. Personally i think tools are just that. I don't think it lessens the artistry of the work if modern tools are involved as long as the artist knows how to properly use them.

BluErf · 22nd February 2009, 04:07 AM

I agree with David!

It's the skills! though good tools would help artists achieve greater heights.

Newsteel · 23rd February 2009, 12:48 AM

A friend ever brought a similar ivory piece to a late mastercarver in Kelantan (northern Malaysia) and hope to seek some pointers how a mranggi would achieved something like this. The explaination he got was pretty simple - he (the mranggi or carver) is very skillful and definite got his special knife or tools in order to carve like that.

asomotif · 24th February 2009, 04:29 PM

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definite got his special knife or tools in order to carve like that.

What I am looking for is some differences between carving the old way and 'carving' with dental / drills.

This specific hilt has some very fine lines and curls that end 'pointed'.
I assume that with only a dental drill this would not be possible... ?

20th February 2009, 04:55 AM	#1
Jussi M. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 235	Very beautiful. I wonder how much it takes time to make something like this? Thanks, J.

20th February 2009, 08:58 AM	#2
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Good work!

20th February 2009, 05:14 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Willem, i'm not sure how one would ever know for sure unless they knew the carver. Personally i think tools are just that. I don't think it lessens the artistry of the work if modern tools are involved as long as the artist knows how to properly use them.

22nd February 2009, 04:07 AM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	I agree with David! It's the skills! though good tools would help artists achieve greater heights.

23rd February 2009, 12:48 AM	#6
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	A friend ever brought a similar ivory piece to a late mastercarver in Kelantan (northern Malaysia) and hope to seek some pointers how a mranggi would achieved something like this. The explaination he got was pretty simple - he (the mranggi or carver) is very skillful and definite got his special knife or tools in order to carve like that.