SUMATRAN hilt? Or?

[BluErf]

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear All,

It is worth to see too, the other pictures below, picturing how "wadasan motifs" also influenced their keris culture. An old Cirebonese keris sheath, with "wadasan" motifs at the upper part of the gandar. Also, other variants of "wadasan motifs" in a Cirebon pedang handle...

GANJAWULUNG

Nice sheath! I have also heard comparisons of Cirebon motifs to Chinese ones. The clouds are similar to the way they are depicted in some Chinese relief carving. Another couple of motifs that were associated with Chinese influence are the chained swastika and the 'meandering belt'.

I can't find reference pics at the moment...

[ganjawulung]

Originally Posted by BluErf

Nice sheath! I have also heard comparisons of Cirebon motifs to Chinese ones. The clouds are similar to the way they are depicted in some Chinese relief carving. Another couple of motifs that were associated with Chinese influence are the chained swastika and the 'meandering belt'.

I can't find reference pics at the moment...

Dear BluErf,

I have another "clouds motifs" or "rock motifs" (wadasan) on a Cirebonese keris sheath. But this is more "islamic" influence -- top of a mosque -- in motifs.

And I hope another example on what you mentioned as Chinese chained swastika, I have one but not Cirebonese. It is a "ladrang" (formal) Maduran sheath, with chained swastika or what BluErf said as 'meandering belt'?

GANJAWULUNG

[Marcokeris]

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear BluErf,

I have another "clouds motifs" or "rock motifs" (wadasan) on a Cirebonese keris ....
GANJAWULUNG

Very very nice

[BluErf]

Ah yes, the last pic shows the 'meandering belt'.