Keris 1

scratch · 28th January 2009, 08:16 AM

Thanks Freebooter

No problems! I look forward to any information.
Hello Sajen

Thanks for sharing the Rare Kumara Reference,Sorry I do not have a book by Kerner. I have tried to find a reference photo of this character with no success.Is he shown in the photo by Marcokeris?, Thanks.
Would he also be known as Kama?
To me this hilt looks to be of a demonic aspect rather than a deity

The bared lips, fangs, oversized clawed hand, flared eyebrows and eyes.
Pg 115 of "Kris Gli Invincibli" 1st print Has a figure with similiar eyes, eyebrows and posture. Although adult in appearance.
If possible,How many types of metal would have been used in this blade? 3 or more?
Thanking you for the discussion. If photo from book needs to be removed due to copyright I hope Moderaters will do so. I am unclear.

Cheers,

Dan

Gavin Nugent · 28th January 2009, 10:42 AM

It may be a little help and I don't claim to be certain of this but I understand even the good guys have fangs and such so it can appear a little misleading to us all from other cultures...

Gav

Sajen · 28th January 2009, 11:01 PM

Hello Daniel,
I think that I will find the time at weekend to take a photo from the page of Kerner's book, there are some very similar hilts and descriped as Rare Kumara. I am not very familar with the hindu mythologie and can't answer your question if there also other writings of this name. I own a hilt from a betel crusher with the same figure and will take also a photo from.
Best regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 28th January 2009, 11:05 PM

Hi again,
forget: yes the hilt shown in Kris Gli Invincibli is the same figure like your hilt. The buckle on his head is one typical sign of Rare Kumara.
Detlef

Sajen · 1st February 2009, 04:15 PM

Hello Daniel,
here at first the hilt I own. I think it's from a betel crusher from Bali.

Sajen · 1st February 2009, 04:20 PM

And here the page from Kerner's book.
Hope it is not against the rules to show this.
Best regards,
sajen

Marcokeris · 1st February 2009, 05:44 PM

What is the meaning of the oval (egg ?

) bowl in the hand ?

In Balì i just saw other wood's gods statue with this oval in hand

28th January 2009, 08:16 AM	#1
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Thanks Freebooter No problems! I look forward to any information. Hello Sajen Thanks for sharing the Rare Kumara Reference,Sorry I do not have a book by Kerner. I have tried to find a reference photo of this character with no success.Is he shown in the photo by Marcokeris?, Thanks. Would he also be known as Kama? To me this hilt looks to be of a demonic aspect rather than a deity The bared lips, fangs, oversized clawed hand, flared eyebrows and eyes. Pg 115 of "Kris Gli Invincibli" 1st print Has a figure with similiar eyes, eyebrows and posture. Although adult in appearance. If possible,How many types of metal would have been used in this blade? 3 or more? Thanking you for the discussion. If photo from book needs to be removed due to copyright I hope Moderaters will do so. I am unclear. Cheers, Dan Attached Images

28th January 2009, 10:42 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Maybe a little help It may be a little help and I don't claim to be certain of this but I understand even the good guys have fangs and such so it can appear a little misleading to us all from other cultures... Gav

1st February 2009, 04:15 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Daniel, here at first the hilt I own. I think it's from a betel crusher from Bali. Attached Images

1st February 2009, 04:20 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	And here the page from Kerner's book. Hope it is not against the rules to show this. Best regards, sajen Attached Images

1st February 2009, 05:44 PM	#7
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	What is the meaning of the oval (egg ?) bowl in the hand ? In Balì i just saw other wood's gods statue with this oval in hand

28th January 2009, 11:01 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Daniel, I think that I will find the time at weekend to take a photo from the page of Kerner's book, there are some very similar hilts and descriped as Rare Kumara. I am not very familar with the hindu mythologie and can't answer your question if there also other writings of this name. I own a hilt from a betel crusher with the same figure and will take also a photo from. Best regards, Detlef

28th January 2009, 11:05 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hi again, forget: yes the hilt shown in Kris Gli Invincibli is the same figure like your hilt. The buckle on his head is one typical sign of Rare Kumara. Detlef