A Portuguese Partisan

fernando · 21st January 2009, 11:35 PM

Hi Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

... What makes me wonder if that lethal purpose could still be reached with your partizan/spontoon is the relative thinness of the blade and of its central reinforcement ridge. These two were, in my opinion, somewhat more accentuated in former blades meant for actual fighting ...

I see your point.
Not that i have not seen blades with a rather more fragile aspect. But i lake the experience to discuss the subject, even much less than you, of course.
Indeed the blade thickness in this one is 6 mm by the ridge, although its lateral 'hooks' reach the 8 mm, partly because they have been beaten (hammered), for whatever reason, which made their rims even thicker.
Fernando

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Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 22nd August 2016, 03:00 PM

More...I add in retrospect the importance of looking at the martial arts of the Sri Lankan diaspora in an attempt to lock down these weapons probably absorbed from the Portuguese. This particular spear seems to be one such weapon.

fernando · 22nd August 2016, 04:51 PM

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 23rd August 2016, 11:44 AM

I illustrate below similar weapons from a variety of European locations...all Partisan styles ...It suggests that this form was copied into traditional weapons in Sri Lankla...I wondered if I could see Partisan spears at the back leaning against the wall in Rembrandts great work...so I included that...Partisan spears crop up in German, Italian, Portuguese and many other European regions. It makes sense that The Portuguese transported in this weapon to Sri Lanka...rather than the other way around.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 23rd August 2016, 01:39 PM

At the Ratnapura Sri Lankan National Museum ~ Patisthnaya Spears.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 23rd August 2016, 01:48 PM

Sri Lankan Partisan Spear...

cornelistromp · 24th August 2016, 07:16 AM

the partisan was imported by the Dutch! in Sri lanka (Ceylon)
Ceylon was between 1640 and 1800 of the VOC, It was conquered on Portugal.
During this period there were two types of partisans in use in the Netherlands, one with an openwork effects (ajour),fe mermen and mermaids. (see a rare spontoon from my collection which, to my knowledge no second copy is known, beyond on the paintings) and a closed Version.

best,
Jasper

22nd August 2016, 03:00 PM	#2
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	More...I add in retrospect the importance of looking at the martial arts of the Sri Lankan diaspora in an attempt to lock down these weapons probably absorbed from the Portuguese. This particular spear seems to be one such weapon. Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 23rd August 2016 at 08:55 AM.

23rd August 2016, 11:44 AM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	I illustrate below similar weapons from a variety of European locations...all Partisan styles ...It suggests that this form was copied into traditional weapons in Sri Lankla...I wondered if I could see Partisan spears at the back leaning against the wall in Rembrandts great work...so I included that...Partisan spears crop up in German, Italian, Portuguese and many other European regions. It makes sense that The Portuguese transported in this weapon to Sri Lanka...rather than the other way around. Attached Images

23rd August 2016, 01:39 PM	#5
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	At the Ratnapura Sri Lankan National Museum ~ Patisthnaya Spears. Attached Images

23rd August 2016, 01:48 PM	#6
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Sri Lankan Partisan Spear... Attached Images

24th August 2016, 07:16 AM	#7
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	the partisan was imported by the Dutch! in Sri lanka (Ceylon) Ceylon was between 1640 and 1800 of the VOC, It was conquered on Portugal. During this period there were two types of partisans in use in the Netherlands, one with an openwork effects (ajour),fe mermen and mermaids. (see a rare spontoon from my collection which, to my knowledge no second copy is known, beyond on the paintings) and a closed Version. best, Jasper Attached Images Last edited by cornelistromp; 24th August 2016 at 08:57 AM.

22nd August 2016, 04:51 PM	#3
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