Formosa Hill Tribe Swords ( for Yuanzhumin )

KuKulzA28 · 18th January 2009, 04:30 AM

so YOU'RE the guy behind the Yang-Grevot collection?!
I've been pouring over those pictures for a long time...
those are some great examples of Aboriginal objects!

I'm Taiwanese American and until I did some research... I didn't even know about the Wushe Rebellion, or the 228 Massacre, or the history of Dutch and Chinese colonization, Koxinga, and the Aborigines throughout it all... it was so enlightening for me to realize that the Kuo Ming Tang flag was one of massacre, assimilation, and oppressive regime... not exactly the crusade against communism that I had been led to believe. I didn't know that I may very well be part aborigine like many Hoklos. I'm now very interested in my heritage, historically, culturally... and of course in the martial arts and weaponry area as well.

Tim Simmons · 18th January 2009, 01:17 PM

Yuanzhumin, there was slight confusion over this knife which we have discussed before.

Tim Simmons · 18th January 2009, 08:29 PM

Any pictures of those knives that went for such high prices.

varta · 28th January 2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Any pictures of those knives that went for such high prices.

I don't think that these knives were the best quality one could find. The context of the auction sale made high prices and these knives were absolutely overpaid. Once a year, ethnological auctions are set up in Paris with items from Africa and Oceania which come from prestigious and historical collections. In the same sale, there were many Azandé, Pendé, Kota, Teke, Lali knives that many members would enjoy! The sale was including pieces which could be considered of museum quality, but definitively not these knives!

Tim Simmons · 28th January 2009, 06:40 PM

Thank you, I take it these are the 5000 euros examples. They are nice, I would say they are museum quality but that does not means they are 5000 euros worth. To me museum quality is not about money value.

varta · 30th January 2009, 07:35 PM

I don't think you should take these as a price example; they were largely overpaid as I explain the context of the auction. Museum quality might not even be that price specially for first half of the XXth century knives. Fortunately!

18th January 2009, 01:17 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,891	Yuanzhumin, there was slight confusion over this knife which we have discussed before. Attached Images

30th January 2009, 07:35 PM	#6
varta Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Berlin-Paris Posts: 37	price I don't think you should take these as a price example; they were largely overpaid as I explain the context of the auction. Museum quality might not even be that price specially for first half of the XXth century knives. Fortunately!

18th January 2009, 04:30 AM	#1
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	so YOU'RE the guy behind the Yang-Grevot collection?! I've been pouring over those pictures for a long time... those are some great examples of Aboriginal objects! I'm Taiwanese American and until I did some research... I didn't even know about the Wushe Rebellion, or the 228 Massacre, or the history of Dutch and Chinese colonization, Koxinga, and the Aborigines throughout it all... it was so enlightening for me to realize that the Kuo Ming Tang flag was one of massacre, assimilation, and oppressive regime... not exactly the crusade against communism that I had been led to believe. I didn't know that I may very well be part aborigine like many Hoklos. I'm now very interested in my heritage, historically, culturally... and of course in the martial arts and weaponry area as well.

18th January 2009, 08:29 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,891	Any pictures of those knives that went for such high prices.

28th January 2009, 06:40 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,891	Thank you, I take it these are the 5000 euros examples. They are nice, I would say they are museum quality but that does not means they are 5000 euros worth. To me museum quality is not about money value.