Introduction with a question

erikscollectables · 14th January 2009, 05:59 PM

Yes as I have heard this material is whale bone.
I have a hilt of the same material.
Hope someone with more knowledge can confirm

David · 14th January 2009, 06:49 PM

First of all, welcome Sajen.
I am not really speaking from any actual knowledge

, but it dies seem to have the right porous quality that would be right for whale bone.

Sajen · 14th January 2009, 07:01 PM

Hello Erik, thanks for your reply. I don't have to much experience with this material, I also have a handle from Bali whereof I think it's from whalebone but this one is not so heavy like this sheat so I'm a little bit confused. And I think also that Mrs. Ghiringhelli will know about this material.
Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 14th January 2009, 07:07 PM

Thank you David. Yes, the porous let me think it's from whale bone but the heaviness let me doubt about.

Sajen · 14th January 2009, 07:20 PM

Here a closeup from the tip of the sheat, maybe it help to identify the material.

Marcokeris · 14th January 2009, 09:03 PM

I'm not so shure the nice sarong comes from whale bone. From bone shure! But from whale...

The very nice hit from pics seems to me ivory.
I put here two hits (from whale bone or from elephant bone i don't know...

....maybe some expert could help me to know better.

Sajen · 14th January 2009, 09:21 PM

Hello Marcokeris, yes the hilt is from elephant ivory.
For me it's also very difficult to differentiate between bone materials.

Alam Shah · 15th January 2009, 05:42 AM

Hi Sajen,

That's a nice minangkabau keris you have there. The blade is Minangkabau, Luk 3, similar to mine (( link )). Minangkabau fretworks (greneng) is smaller and delicate looking than most.

The fittings, as you've mentioned are Minang, as well.

14th January 2009, 05:59 PM	#1
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	Yes as I have heard this material is whale bone. I have a hilt of the same material. Hope someone with more knowledge can confirm Attached Images

14th January 2009, 07:20 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,325	Here a closeup from the tip of the sheat, maybe it help to identify the material. Attached Images

14th January 2009, 09:03 PM	#6
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	I'm not so shure the nice sarong comes from whale bone. From bone shure! But from whale... The very nice hit from pics seems to me ivory. I put here two hits (from whale bone or from elephant bone i don't know... ....maybe some expert could help me to know better. Attached Images

15th January 2009, 05:42 AM	#8
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Minangkabau Luk 3 keris Hi Sajen, That's a nice minangkabau keris you have there. The blade is Minangkabau, Luk 3, similar to mine (( link )). Minangkabau fretworks (greneng) is smaller and delicate looking than most. The fittings, as you've mentioned are Minang, as well.

14th January 2009, 06:49 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	First of all, welcome Sajen. I am not really speaking from any actual knowledge , but it dies seem to have the right porous quality that would be right for whale bone.

14th January 2009, 07:01 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,325	Hello Erik, thanks for your reply. I don't have to much experience with this material, I also have a handle from Bali whereof I think it's from whalebone but this one is not so heavy like this sheat so I'm a little bit confused. And I think also that Mrs. Ghiringhelli will know about this material. Regards, Detlef

14th January 2009, 07:07 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,325	Thank you David. Yes, the porous let me think it's from whale bone but the heaviness let me doubt about.

14th January 2009, 09:21 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,325	Hello Marcokeris, yes the hilt is from elephant ivory. For me it's also very difficult to differentiate between bone materials.