Police Truncheons

VANDOO · 10th January 2009, 07:02 AM

JIMMY MANTERIS HAS A VERY NICE COLLECTION OF THESE AND QUITE A BIT OF REFRENCE AND INFORMATION ON THEM. NEXT TIME I TALK TO HIM I WILL SEE IF HE CAN POST SOME REFRENCES OR INFO.
THIS TYPE OF WEAPON WAS ALSO USED A LOT BY THE PRESS GANGS WHO WOULD KONK AND DRAG OFF ANYONE THEY COULD FIND TO SERVE IN THE NAVY. MANY A FAMILY SUFFERED THE HARDSHIP OF LOSEING A FATHER OR SON TO THE PRESS GANGS AND AMERICA FOUGHT A WAR OVER OUR SHIPS BEING STOPPED AND OUR SAILORS BEING PRESSED INTO THEIR NAVY.
SOME OF THESE CLUBS WERE HOLLOWED OUT AND LEAD FILLED TO ADD MORE WEIGHT AND STRIKE HARDER MANY ALSO HAD A LEATHER COVERING TO KEEP IT FROM SPLITTING. THERE ARE ALSO SIMULAR POLICE CLUBS THAT WERE USED IN AMERICA I HAVE ONE AROUND SOMEWHERE THAT WAS USED IN NEW YORK IN THE 1920'S

Pukka Bundook · 13th January 2009, 02:35 PM

Vandoo,

Police club....this is a perfect description of some of them!

I must take the time to see if anything will come up on the collection in York.

R.

son of oaf · 16th January 2009, 01:54 PM

Pukka,

I must've missed a beat...
is there a collection in York?!
I'm actually visiting York next weekend and it'd be good to look this stuff up...
amazing coincidence
whereabouts is it?

thanks in advance

Oaf

Pukka Bundook · 16th January 2009, 03:18 PM

Hi Son,
Ive sent a PM back to you.

I Think the display was in the museum in York, but it's been 25 yrs since we came to Canada, and probably ten yrs before that when I looked at the collection....so the details are getting fuzzy.
We'll see what I can find out.

Richard.

Just googled Truncheon collection, York, and a line or two turned up.;

.."York posseses a noted folk museum, based on large collection....Constable truncheons,....... fireplace fittings..." etc etc.
Hope this might help.

Had another look, & e-mailed York castle museum...seems the most likely spot.
Even if they don't have the truncheons, they have a fantastic weapons display!
R

R.

son of oaf · 18th January 2009, 10:10 AM

Pukka you are a legend!
We are travelling to York next Saturday...
I'll do some digging and see if i can't find some truncheons!

thank you so much for your help
wooooop!

Oaf

Pukka Bundook · 19th January 2009, 02:51 PM

Well Son, I've been called a lot of things,...but legend ain't one of 'em 'til now!

I hope it works out for you.

"legend" (R)

Pukka Bundook · 20th January 2009, 02:06 PM

Just got this email from Michelle;

Dear Mr Hare,

Thank you for your e-mail and for your enquiry regarding the truncheons. We do still have the collection of truncheons here at York Castle Museum. Although there are very few on display now, the collection is retained in one of our stores.

If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours sincerely

Michelle Petyt

_________________________________________________

Michelle Petyt
Assistant Curator of Social History

York Museums Trust
York Castle Museum
The Eye of York
York
YO1 9RY

Telephone: +44 (0)1904 650332
Fax: +44 (0)1904 671078
Web: www.yorkmuseumstrust.org.uk

If you talk to her, you may be able to make arrangements to see the whole collection.

all the best,

Richard.

16th January 2009, 03:18 PM	#4
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Hi Son, Ive sent a PM back to you. I Think the display was in the museum in York, but it's been 25 yrs since we came to Canada, and probably ten yrs before that when I looked at the collection....so the details are getting fuzzy. We'll see what I can find out. Richard. Just googled Truncheon collection, York, and a line or two turned up.; .."York posseses a noted folk museum, based on large collection....Constable truncheons,....... fireplace fittings..." etc etc. Hope this might help. Had another look, & e-mailed York castle museum...seems the most likely spot. Even if they don't have the truncheons, they have a fantastic weapons display! R R. Last edited by Pukka Bundook; 16th January 2009 at 03:55 PM.

10th January 2009, 07:02 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	JIMMY MANTERIS HAS A VERY NICE COLLECTION OF THESE AND QUITE A BIT OF REFRENCE AND INFORMATION ON THEM. NEXT TIME I TALK TO HIM I WILL SEE IF HE CAN POST SOME REFRENCES OR INFO. THIS TYPE OF WEAPON WAS ALSO USED A LOT BY THE PRESS GANGS WHO WOULD KONK AND DRAG OFF ANYONE THEY COULD FIND TO SERVE IN THE NAVY. MANY A FAMILY SUFFERED THE HARDSHIP OF LOSEING A FATHER OR SON TO THE PRESS GANGS AND AMERICA FOUGHT A WAR OVER OUR SHIPS BEING STOPPED AND OUR SAILORS BEING PRESSED INTO THEIR NAVY. SOME OF THESE CLUBS WERE HOLLOWED OUT AND LEAD FILLED TO ADD MORE WEIGHT AND STRIKE HARDER MANY ALSO HAD A LEATHER COVERING TO KEEP IT FROM SPLITTING. THERE ARE ALSO SIMULAR POLICE CLUBS THAT WERE USED IN AMERICA I HAVE ONE AROUND SOMEWHERE THAT WAS USED IN NEW YORK IN THE 1920'S

13th January 2009, 02:35 PM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Vandoo, Police club....this is a perfect description of some of them! I must take the time to see if anything will come up on the collection in York. R.

16th January 2009, 01:54 PM	#3
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	Pukka, I must've missed a beat... is there a collection in York?! I'm actually visiting York next weekend and it'd be good to look this stuff up... amazing coincidence whereabouts is it? thanks in advance Oaf

18th January 2009, 10:10 AM	#5
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	Pukka you are a legend! We are travelling to York next Saturday... I'll do some digging and see if i can't find some truncheons! thank you so much for your help wooooop! Oaf

19th January 2009, 02:51 PM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Well Son, I've been called a lot of things,...but legend ain't one of 'em 'til now! I hope it works out for you. "legend" (R)

20th January 2009, 02:06 PM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Just got this email from Michelle; Dear Mr Hare, Thank you for your e-mail and for your enquiry regarding the truncheons. We do still have the collection of truncheons here at York Castle Museum. Although there are very few on display now, the collection is retained in one of our stores. If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact me. Yours sincerely Michelle Petyt _________________________________________________ Michelle Petyt Assistant Curator of Social History York Museums Trust York Castle Museum The Eye of York York YO1 9RY Telephone: +44 (0)1904 650332 Fax: +44 (0)1904 671078 Web: www.yorkmuseumstrust.org.uk If you talk to her, you may be able to make arrangements to see the whole collection. all the best, Richard.