10 luk blade ?

[asomotif]

Thanks for the comments.

Any idea on how old this blade might be.

[Dajak]

Might be 10/30 years this one heavely acid to make it look older .



Ben

[asomotif]

Bali again ?

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Bali again ?

Maybe coffee or thee to darken it like your skull



Ben

[David]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Maybe coffee or thee to darken it like your skull

Ben and Willem, i would say that "in jokes" between the two of you are probably best kept to PM conversation, lest we all get the impression that the two of you don't really like each other.

[David]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Might be 10/30 years this one heavely acid to make it look older .

Well Ben, anything is possible, but i don't get the impression that this is an artificially aged blade. What makes you think so?

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by David

Well Ben, anything is possible, but i don't get the impression that this is an artificially aged blade. What makes you think so?

The blade is very bad misused with wateracid they use in an car battery to hide the real age we see this a lot mostly bring back from dutch army guys in the 50 to make it look better put in an decent scabbard an nice hilt on it .

It also looks that they use kachelpotlood on it I don t now the Enghlis worth for it

If an kris that is real nice one it has better treathment so there is nothing
to hide and no use off aggressive acid needed .

Here an pic off 2 kris that are recently washed on the right way



Ben

[asomotif]

off 2 kris that are recently washed on the right way

Ben, Pretty but slightly rusty examples. not relevant in this thread imho.

Does anybody have any serious comment on the age of this washed down 11/10 luk blade ? maybe on basis of dapur ?

[ganjawulung]

Agree with David, Battara and Alamshah... A "sabuk inten" (dhapur), 11 waves but the tip is a little bit worn away.

GANJAWULUNG

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ben, Pretty but slightly rusty examples. not relevant in this thread imho.

Does anybody have any serious comment on the age of this washed down 11/10 luk blade ? maybe on basis of dapur ?

The relevant is to show that your kris is worn away and even that an rusty kris don't have the pitting and black made color on the kris like yours and that it could be that your kris had one wave more.

Ben

[David]

Originally Posted by Dajak

The relevant is to show that your kris is worn away and even that an rusty kris don't have the pitting and black made color on the kris like yours and that it could be that your kris had one wave more.

Well Ben, i also think i see a touch of residual rust on your properly washed ivory hilted blade.
I think we are all aware that new blades often get artificial age treatments, but frankly i personally find it rather difficult to tell based on the photo that Willem has provided. I have a few old soldiers in my collection that have pitted blades (and i am sure they have real age) so i don't think that is a fair indicator of deception. If i were to assume this is indeed an old blade i would say that it has a pamor made with non-contrasting materials which would account for the dark color of the blade over all. New blades are artificially aged for different reasons. Sometimes it is to deceive, but often it is just because it is the style, a look which is trying to be achieved. Of course, when that is the case the blade would not be eroded as badly as this one.
Since this is not a particularly rare or valuable pamor or dhapur (unless i am missing something), i see little reason why someone would purposefully do this much damage to it to try to pass it off as old. Over-washed, worn out blades like this don't usually get too much money and if it was recently made i would image the maker could get just as much if not more if the blade were pristine with less work involved. But then perhaps i am speaking from a logic that just does not apply.